Yeah, I remember from the last 10 times you said it. And then the next 5 times you said it in this post, I caught those too. The truth is indubitable if it has been truly discovered, that's really all I'm trying to claim here. I never once denied that there were contingent truths. You just can't claim to know one because they're incredibly uncertain to the human subject. Now, I would say 'if you're done ranting now could we please get back to the thread', but the entirety of this thread has been eaten up by you foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog because of some perceived misunderstanding of the word 'truth'. So I guess we should get the thread started?
The truth is not indubitable even if it has been truly discovered, since whether the Nile is the longest river in Africa is dubitable. It is possible to doubt it. But, to our best information, of course, it is true. I imagine lots of people do not know that the Nile is the longest river in Africa. Don't you?
Why can't I know a contingent truth. Not because they may be uncertain, because that assumes we cannot know a truth that might be false. But that the Nile is the longest river in Africa might
be false, but we know it,since it happens to be true. If you believe that you cannot know unless you are certain (which you seem to believe) have you an argument for that belief? Let me repeat a distinction I have already made. You cannot know if what you believe you know is false. But that is no reason to think that you cannot know if what you believe you know might be false. There is a big difference between something being false, and the possibility of its being false, Since, if it is possible it is false, then it is also possible that it is true. I thought the thread was started. It is clear, of course, that no truths are invented, and all truths are discovered, since to say of something that it is an invented truth is to say of it that it is a lie, and not really a truth at all. For example, Hitler invented the truth that Jews were inferior beings. That means that it is not true that Jews are inferior beings. It is a lie. Germany invented the truth that it was attacked by Poland in 1939. Which means that it was not true that Germany was attacked by Poland in 1939. It was a lie. So, invented truths are lies, and therefore, they are not true. Therefore, there are no invented truths.