@Pusyphus,
Pusyphus wrote: No. Disclosure would mean sharing only as much as would not be considered a detriment to national security. If you want your perspective to be considered seriously, you ought to explain why the simple acknowledgement of alien intelligent life represents a threat.
Again, if the government has no ties, then seeing the alien "force" as a threat would be a mild understatement. In this case, one would think that our military would be open to any help or direction they could get, even if it's from the people, no?
If not, then explain.
This is how I see it, the Government knows that these beings are not a threat to us, but they they use this as an excuse to make it an issue of national security, although they are certian that these beings are of no threat to us. They also use, the excuse that "we can't handle the Earth shaking information, and the implifications of this information", but both of these are just excuses for keeping the information supressed, the real reason lies in the greed and lust for power this minority of corrupt people have. The technology and the information that has come from relations with Aliens and the reverse engineering of Alien space crafts would totally rid the world of all polluting sources of energy and propulsion, the world would change dramatically overnight, 3rd world countries could be given free energy, and they would no longer make billions, or trillions every year, from these Earth destroying methods of power production.
Pusyphus wrote:
I sense that you allude to the "altruistic" nature of scientific study. What, then, would be the reason for doing something so irresponsible as corrupting "natural" Ape DNA to create a species that could very well destroy the planet, including the Ape, when left to its own devices?
As, I said, we are still being watched carefully, and I have devised a conlusion from all this, the reason I think they are studying and watching us closely, which I will state in a moment, and I don't see it as corrupting "natural" DNA, it's all just perfectly reasonable science.
Pusyphus wrote:
When did you suggest they were just doing it for fun? maybe the second paragraph of your last post, when you said "...it's the joy of science."
I'm just saying that they enjoy science, which gives them more motive for conducting such experiments, because I do think our planet is far from the only "ant farm". They do actually have an ultimate goal, which I'm about to theorize on.
Pusyphus wrote:
Well, you better start with some conclusion...ANY. Otherwise, you are wasting everyone's time.
If you're asking what the 2012 objective might be, I don't have a friggin clue. I guess we'd find out soon enough. Any guesses? Yes, their complex goal may be difficult to figure out, but not necessarily impossible with the information available.
If you think we should leave ourselves open to all the options, then you will have accomplished nothing except establishing that you could not formulate a simple conclusion, and support it?
OK, so here is my conclusion, my thoughts on why they are doing this whole thing, what their goals are, and what will happen at the end of this time limit.
They found Earth full of life when they developed the technology to explore the depths of the universe. As I said, they gave the ape a slighly modified body and brain, they probably chose the ape because it was most similar to themselves, and they could see the potential, so they modified the ape, and now it was self-aware, it was a species totally different from the original ape, it was the human. So the human began to civilize, colinize, develop communities, technology and the such. Now, the Aliens had a goal in mind from the moment the created the "human". Not only would they find it interesting and informative, to study us, but they wanted us to achieve greatness in a given time, greatness in the form of understanding, truth, and real cosmic truth comes in the forms of philosophical, metaphysical and spiritual understanding, we must rid ourselves of the materialistic and conditioned views we hold, we must become aware of our higher selves, our souls, our spirituality, we must also rid our selves of war, crime, anger, violence, arrogance and greed, we must step up a level and come together as a species, we must become something they feel safe they can release into the universe, we must become a species they can respect and admire, we must become a species they can be proud of. Now, they figure if we can't do it in a certian time, which we are not, they are going to need to intervene, they will let the catastophic events of 2012 happen, but they will only save those who they feel deserve to be saved, it will be like a cleansing process, they will rid our species of the undesirable part of the population which, will be most of it, they will let those who are saved in on a few important facts, and after the events which only start on 2012, and slowly build up from there, have passed, they will place the saved back on Earth. It will be like a kick in the behind, they will enable us to gain a huge evolutionary advancement, and so they continue studying and waiting, until will can be released into the wild, free from our zoo, and zoo keepers.
Pusyphus wrote:
Okay, well that's actually four possibilities, along with excess verbage...
1. If they did not want to interfere with us in any way, then you mean a blind experiment, right? Why the occasional appearances then? Either take a position, or assume the position.
2. If they were told to remain hidden, then we have a real problem here don't we, in one way or another? Let's talk about that possibility.
3. If they could not create their own safe havens, then don't you think introducing themselves would be a viable approach, in the pragmatic sense?
4. They don't care...well that appears to be a very likely case, believe it or not. Now, what would that say about them?
They don't want to remain hidden, I think they just don't care if we see them, infact I think they are hoping we soon realize their existence without them having to let us know themselves, it must be getting really rediculous in their eyes. They were probably told to remain hidden, but they obviously won't listen to us, especially the corrupt people that want them to remain hidden, and they most certianly can create their own safe heavens, which are most likely not even on Earth, they would be on nearby planets in our solar system, and there are lots of Government, NASA, and astromony related people who claim that there are infact huge structures on the moon and under the surface of Mars, but yes, they have introduced themselves to people in higher places, and I do suspect that they operate in, and have helped build, our massive underground infastructure. I suspect that we have very close relations with these beings in some parts of our secret Government operations.
Pusyphus wrote:
If they don't exist, fine.
If they do exist, and there is nothing we can do to affect their will, or protect ourselves from their decisions, then fine.
But, if there is something that we can do as people, to affect our own well-being, in the face of the threat that they may impose, then what would that be? How can you convince people that we should be looking out for a way to defeat this alien threat, in the worst case scenario?
Well, you have heard my theory, and I have clearly stated that these beings have no negative, evil, or corrupt objectives or motives, so the most obvious answer as to what to do, is just to wake up to ourselves, and step up a level, in the way I have stated. They are of no threat, they are not like that, they realize that war, crime, anger, violence, arrogance and greed are just pathetic, useless, and unintelligent ways of going about things, they are past all of that, not to mention, they have been around for as long as we have, and if they were angry or hostile in any way, we would have been gone a long time ago, it would like be stepping on an ant to them. We are most definitely of no threat to them, and they are of no threat to us.
Pleasure to meet you.
