Have you not read the testimonies provided in my other thread: "The Disclosure Project - We Have the Right to Know"? The thread is located in the science section. It contains over 400 testimonies from highly respectable people, I suggest you give them a read, start with "testimonies that explain the secrecy" if you want a better idea of how these things are kept under wraps, and I think I have more than enough skeptics to even things out...

Oh come on!!! Infalsifiable... does that word not compute? You know... I'm going to make a thread and call it "The Psychology of Infalsifiables" and explain how I truly feel about this whole useless squirreling going on.

The aim of this thread is supposed to be about providing theories and criticizing them. Well it's all flawed regardless. Only the psychology matters.

And these youtube clips, why is it that they seem to revolve not around aliens, but around this trascendent/improvable phenomenon which unfortunately, blatantly suggests its all backed by petty emotional frenzies.

Pusyphus,

I'd rather trust the scientific community. That theory has long ago been denounced by the modern understanding of planet formation, along with the current understanding of gravity.

There are reports of people visiting descendants of Atlantis underneath the ground of the Earth - 'Eye witnesses' that claim there are hidden civilizations with humans that are taller, living and breathing under the earth's crust. Are you kidding me? Really, do you want to debate fantastical writing? This is child's play. Most people regard the Hollow Earth hypothesis as nothing more than pseudoscience, and for good reason - it's another one of these make-believe stories that has everyone excited. Sorry, there are no tall men living beneath us, buddy.

You go on about not believing tainted sources, and then immediately believe something you'd read out of a children's book, based on a misunderstanding of scientific facts? Before you set out to understand this world, don't be so quick to trust the sources you hold so dearly. Oh, and just to wrap all of this up, I did read that there is supposed to be an expedition by these nutjobs sometime this year to try to 'prove' this theory (I think they're going to try to find one of the openings you suggested). Of course, when they don't find any openings beneath the earth with which a tribe of tall, Atlanean humans live, I'll be here to speak with you.

Those 'mysteries' seem to be put out there for an ulterior purpose.

When you realize that, then the most likely explanation for all of this crap becomes more and more clear.

The 'claim' in this video can indeed be proven.

ineffectual skeptic: You need to be a detective, if you want any answers at all.

So... what does it have to do with aliens then? And you say it seems to have an ulterior purpose, yet you scientifically try to explain it.:puzzled:

It may seem unrelated. But, it indicates a region which is rarely considered, yet "livable" in one way or another. When people try to dispute the mountains of evidence indicating other intelligent life forms here at the Earth, the first thing many of them use as reasoning against that is how unlikely it would be to travel from some other star. They assume that the "visitors" are here temporarily because we don't see them all the time. It's not germane to the argument, when more is known.

What I mean by "ulterior" are the theories put out there for the purpose of distraction...take the theory of evolution, for example, or the idea of a benevolent christ-like god, the notion that intelligent alien life-forms would not have motives, etc.

Here Ghost, let me give you some hints. Suppose I have a theory to explain why human life originated on earth.

I could hypothesize that, prior to our existence, there was a human-like civilization that sought to make earth its home. Let's call them the Lord. I could also hypothesize that the Lord had technology to manipulate the environment, as well as engineer different species of life. I could also say that the Lord could only breathe methane. And finally, I could hypothesize that the Lord preferred the interior open space within the earth, because, among other things, it made travel and work much easier.

My conclusion would be that the Lord created humans and plants to become part of an autonomous, three-way, symbiotic relationship. The plants were designed to take carbon dioxide and produce oxygen, the humans were designed to take oxygen and produce methane, in simple terms. And, the Lord had been originally created to take methane and produce petroleum.

Now, I have a working theory, because there is evidence to support all of this. Do I need to prove how/why the Lord got here? No, because it is beyond the scope of my argument (theory). Do I need to know how life itself originated? Nope. We can already agree that life exists. How it happened is moot. Do I need to explain how we got here? No, my theory intends to explain why we are here. Of course, scrutinizing this theory may lead to reasoning for an explanation of how we got here. But, as you may agree, how is not nearly as important as why.

How I support my hypotheses is relevant, though.

So, I could say that the Lord looks similar to us because there is a book that has been published throughout the world that is said to be dictated by the Lord. This book clearly states that we look like the Lord...human-like.

I can support the claim that the Lord has the technology to manipulate the environment and genetically engineer new species, by observing the fact that humans already possess that ability. It isn't a stretch of the mind to assume that the engineer possesses at least as much technology as the engineered, at all times. Note that I do not need to explain how self-replicating lifeforms came about. All we need to know is that they indeed exist.

I could use the fact that we need a combustible molecule (Oxygen) to survive, as a way to support the idea that the Lord also needs a combustible molecule (Methane) to survive. It's simply an indication.

And finally, I could support the claim that the Lord lives in the interior of the hollow earth, by stating that the laws of physics dictate that spinning objects tend to be hollow (hurricanes, asteroid belts, etc). I don't need to explain why this is covered up by our govt/military/media complex, because that's a whole other discussion. It does follow that I would be relying on such a cover-up to support my theory, however. But, it's not very difficult to show that agencies like the government have covered things up in the past. (Take the JFK mess, for example.)

See what I'm getting at?

-They can telepathically communicate with each other and us.

Jesus, the theory of evolution, and aliens not having visitation motives are all lumped into the same category of "distractions"?! Please, please explain your case.

Well Zetherin, let me ask you this...

Hypothetically speaking, do you think it's possible that there is a truth about this world that is so disturbing, or so dis-enchanting, that we would all decide that we would rather not know about it?

Well Zetherin, let me ask you this...

Hypothetically speaking, do you think it's possible that there is a truth about this world that is so disturbing, or so dis-enchanting, that we would all decide that we would rather not know about it?

How many gave any real tangible proof ? how many do you think know of this cover up thousands ? hundreds? Underground bunkers with perpetual motion generators ? craft capable of light speed..why are they spending millions on alternative energy sources ? why are we going to space in cumbersome rockets..

What kind of Telepathic Communication do they have?
Simplex?
Half-Duplex?
Full-Duplex?
Multiplex?

They can telepathically communicate with each other and us.

Is this a serious question? If it is, which I'm sure it's not, I'm not familiar with the technicalities of telepathy, as far as I know, the terms you just used are the terms used for the different methods of sending light in fibre optic cables.

Personally, it seems a tiny bit ridiculous that, even if the supposed aliens were in the nearest solar system and were capable of lightspeed travel, would travel for five years from Alpha Centauri and their only goals being to kidnap a load of people that seem genetically presupposed to be unbelievable, plant some chips in people and be seen as a barely flitting piece of light on various cameras. Surely a more logical thing to do would be to hang around in orbit, identify a source of power and attempt communication?