"I have traveled through the fog of the unknown mountain"
You're still in it, as far as I can see. Wheels are spinning but no forward motion.

"I have traveled through the fog of the unknown mountain"
You're still in it, as far as I can see. Wheels are spinning but no forward motion.

Some people see what is and some see what never was, and which is right???

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Maybe that is the whole idea...If he locks them up either something will break, or he will be gone...

I would like to bet five dollars on something breaking...

When your education matches your hubris you will understand the literary reference.

I will not eat them on a boat i will not eat them with a goat.

Horton heard the who? Cindy Low who.

Red Fish blue fish dead fish you fish.

Literary references aren't that neat when they don't make sense.

When your education matches your hubris you will understand the literary reference.

If they don't make sense it is only because you do not possess the knowledge to understand them.

There is much knowledge to be gleaned from Dr. Seus, it is only the small mind that hears the rhyme and nothing more fills his plate.

In actual fact, I am quite well educated. I don't usually respond to posts such like this, but I have to say something, and I can't sugar coat it.

As far as hubris is concerned, your entire post is written as if it is a prophetic announcement from on high. But it contains no philosophical substance that I can determine. I don't know how you claim to know that the universe consists of 'boundless light' or why you think your expression of this idea will impart any information to anyone who reads it. Anyone could sit down and write this kind of thing, but what is the point of saying it? So that the assembled throng things 'trismegisto is a guru'?

From the very small number of posts I have seen of yours I see no evidence of any actual philosophical education and, going on the evidence of what is written, I would say the chances are pretty good that you are actually delusional. So it is better to be upfront about it, as this after all is a forum where any ideas are up for criticism, yours, mine and anyone else's. I do generally present a viewpoint from the perspective of spiritual philosophy on the Forum, but I back it up with a lot of references, argumentation and reasoning instead of trying to come across as a prophet or enlightened being. If you were prepared to do the same, I might start to take your contributions seriously. But I just find the tone of your writing unbearably pretentious and completely lacking in credibility. I don't like to be negative, and I try to avoid confrontation, but it is just something I feel has to be said.

When your education matches your hubris you will understand the literary reference.

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Is that really the best you have to offer? I am sure you can do better than that, perhaps you should try again.

In actual fact, I am quite well educated. I don't usually respond to posts like this, but I have to say something, and I can't sugar coat it.

As far as hubris is concerned, your entire post is written as if it is a prophetic announcement from on high. But it contains no philosophical substance that I can determine. I don't know how you claim to know that the universe consists of 'boundless light' or why you think your expression of this idea will impart any information to anyone who reads it. Anyone could sit down and write this kind of thing, but what is the point of saying it? So that the assembled throng thinks 'trismegisto is a guru'?

From the very small number of posts I have seen of yours I see no evidence of any actual philosophical education and, going on the evidence of what is written, I would say the chances are pretty good that you are actually delusional. So it is better to be upfront about it, as this after all is a forum where any ideas are up for criticism, yours, mine and anyone else's. I do generally present a viewpoint from the perspective of spiritual philosophy on the Forum, but I back it up with a lot of references, argumentation and reasoning instead of trying to come across as a prophet or enlightened being. If you were prepared to do the same, I might start to take your contributions seriously. But I just find the tone of your writing unbearably pretentious and completely lacking in credibility. I don't like to be negative, and I try to avoid confrontation, but it is just something I feel has to be said.

I could not learn to read when I was a child... When he died, I told some one the Dr. taught me how to read, no lie, and they asked if I had anything signed by him.... No... You see, he didn't really teach me personally...He just wrote these books that matched my intellect....

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The infinite looks like a heavy bag, and no wise man would dare to hit it...But people like myself, for all practical purposes, Uneducated, find at the first jab that it has all the resistence of a feather pillow...You can make a mess of it, but hitting it will never wear anyone out...If it never builds any mental muscle, why do it??? Why not just shadow box??? The shadow has more get up and go...

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I am never at my best using another persons metaphore to carry my water... All I would say is: Of what you speak, no one can know, and of what we can know, the problems presented need every good soul, and willing mind to resolve... You're Welcome.

You are of course entitled to your OPINION. Perhaps when you get a little more life experience you mind will grow. Good Luck to you.

I find this incredibly funny. Not only do you not know jeeprs but your argument results in an ad hominem. Even though I don't agree with jeeprs all that often, I can say he exhibits quite a bit of understanding. He probably has twice the life experience that you have, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was even more than that.

You are of course entitled to your OPINION. Perhaps when you get a little more life experience you mind will grow. Good Luck to you.

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I am not sure what purpose you seek by trolling this forum, but clearly philosophy is not it. I hope you find whatever it is you are lacking in your life so that you can regain some sense of happiness. Good luck to you.

Thanks; but I do not much accept luck either...

back it up with a lot of references ... If you were prepared to do the same, I might start to take your contributions seriously.

Perhaps we might avoid the tiresome tactics which are overused in politics, and come back to the subject at hand?

A short, non-exhaustive, list of references which reiterate trismegisto's statement is provided below:

From BUNDAHIS, Pahlavi Texts, Part I:
Pahlavi Texts, Part I: Bundahi<I>s</I>: Chapter I

From THE BOOK OF LIGHT (Zohar):
Zohar: Genesis: Chapter I.

From The Vishnu Puran:
The Vishnu Purana: Preface: Book One

From Rig-Veda:
Rig Veda: Rig-Veda, Book 10: HYMN CXXIX. Creation.

From "The Untitled Text" On the Origin of the World from the Nag Hammadi Library:
On the Origin of the World -- The Nag Hammadi Library

These, and a great number of similar descriptions on the origin of creation, reveal a consistent history of belief. What influence do these beliefs have on issues of morality, on physics, on our understanding of love, on the origin of consciousness, on our place in society and the significance of life's existence ... ?

Try conscious contemplation then. It works every time in every individual. All you need to do is find a comfortable place where you are not distracted by your body and your surroundings. Then, actively think of all the actions you took to be there at that spot at that moment. Not just all the actions you took today, but all the actions you took in your entire life that brought you to that spot at that moment. That's all you gotta do.

What's the point, you might ask?

After awhile, when you have spent enough time you will have gained a complete knowledge of all your actions. At first, it will just be the significant moments in your life that you remember, but as you continue on, repeating the process over and over, you will begin to remember the smaller, less significant moments. With practice, as with all things, you will be able to consciously summon your entire life path, at will. Consciously understanding every action of your entire life and how it relates to every subsequent action in your life.

As this understanding blossoms, so will an understanding of how every external action upon you has affected your own actions. This summons an understanding of your place in the universe.

I would be interested to know your opinions of my ideas once you have an understanding of your place in the universe.

My thanks. While it is true that these ideas are found in many cultures throughout time. All it takes is actively setting aside a little time every day to consciously contemplate one's place in the universe. It is fun to find historical personages that have discovered the same things but their authority is not necessary. It is freely available to all who care know.

Dude; I am like Job, in the Bible...I can count all my bones and it is because they all say: Here I am and boy do I hurt today... So unless I wanted to dull all my senses with drugs I will have to be contented with the distractions of my body...Now, I accept your spiritual awarness, but it is not philosophy, exactly, but that old time metaphysics that added to spit is about worth spit...You claim knowledge of infinites... Show me what you know...

Try to locate your place in the universe with cartesian coodinates... Some say man stands midway between the cosmos and the microcosmos...How would they go about proving such a thing???

The fact is, we are better off coming to terms with what we do not know than contemplating our place even in this galaxy, which, like spilled milk is better cleaned up than cried over... Contemplate your ignorance as I contemplate mine... So much to know, so little life, so little intelligence with which to add to knowledge... How do we survive as we are, as dumb as fense posts???Who says we are surviving???

It is freely available to all who care know.

It is curious, then, how throughout the millenia, so many have dedicated such enormous, one might say superhuman, efforts to realizing and working out the implications of these momentous ideas. For example, in Buddhism, it is well understood that Nirvana is something that can be attained in this life, but, for example, in the Southern schools, a rigorous program of Vipassana meditation is recommended, grounded in regular 10-day retreats, and reinforced by a two-hour-a-day practice commitment. Zen also puts a lot of emphasis on sitting practice, observing the precepts, and living a dedicated Buddhist life. The Tibetan schools mainly practice tantric awareness through guru-yoga, which again is a very arduous path. The Veda are indeed the basis for the religious life of the Hindus, which again is embedded in a cultural matrix consisting of devotional and spiritual practices and disciplines aimed at subduing the egoistic tendencies of the student. The yogic disciplines can indeed provide the higher realizations, but the student had to be willing to undergo the training.

It may well be true that for those who consciousness has been transformed by realization of the great truths, reality is indeed the emanation of light or an idea in the mind of God. But all of the sources that were quoted, are scriptures of one or another ancient spiritual tradition (including Zoroastrianism, I note) which, taken out of the context of the devotional tradition within which they are meaningful, may or may not yield the insights you have paraphrased. I mean, all of this information is widely available now, but undergoing the preliminaries and realizing the fruits of the practice requires a lifelong commitment, indeed, a religious discipline, which is what they are all referring to. And I don't think that composing free text around the themes of 'boundless light' and 'the nature of evil' indicates any real engagement with these traditions or understanding of what they are trying to convey.