My opinion on the Death Penalty is that it is justifiable only under certain circumstances but I won't explain my reasoning here. They are too complicated. And I prefer to leave the thread open for arguments either way. I will simply state my opinion: That there are in the world monstrous inhumans (not humans ... for to call them such would be irrational) whom the world would be far better off without.

Could it be justifiable to put to death an innocent person? A person who for some reason or another slipped through the cracks of the system and wound up on the chopping block. Would that be alright? Maybe that never happens, only the guilty are found guilty. Maybe innocent people are never found guilty of crimes?

I think it would be far worse to put to death an wrongly accused innocent person.

But isn't the issue whether the death penalty is justifiable for persons who are guilty of murder? That innocent people may be put to death is a flaw, but that has nothing to do with the issue.

That there are in the world monstrous inhumans (not humans ... for to call them such would be irrational) whom the world would be far better off without.

I personally dont believe there are people wicked enough to not be considered humans, but there are wicked people alright =)

I think there is a problem in our penal systems wich is that they are based on the idea of that people can change, but society doesnt wants to give people a chance to change, it wants to "smite evil". So we end up with an hybrid that neither smites as much as the people want nor reforms as much as the laws intended. This is mostly a teory, since I cant really point out where the connection between the inneficiency of our penal systems and the divergences between people and laws is, But I doubt such divergences could exist winhout causing any troubles...

Ideally, death penalty should only be applied if there is no hope whatsoever of the criminal ever being reintegrated into society, nor of it working on prision to pay its own stay. But I think that criminals that get very long sentences/have little chances of ever being freed should probally be given the option of death after a few years in jail. A few years in jail because I think thats enough time for then to be 100% sure they prefer death than living like that.

But isn't the issue whether the death penalty is justifiable for persons who are guilty of murder? That innocent people may be put to death is a flaw, but that has nothing to do with the issue.

But you cant ignore the failure of a system when asking a question about a system you might encourage. You cant isolate it from reality.

The last person that was hung in Britain was found to be innocent after, that was why it was abolished. Can't say I'd like to live in a country where I might be at risk of getting wrongly arrested and put to death.

It has everything to do with the issue so long as we do not have absolute knowledge of guilt or innocence. How many innocent people is it acceptable to execute in order to have a death penalty for the truly guilty?

There's a big difference to being imprisoned wrongly then to be killed wrongly, it's called life. And there is a big difference to imprisoning a rapist for a few years rather than life too, where society goes wrong is they think these monsters are rehabiltated, statistics show they go on to rape again and again. You want to start with the sentencing programme if anything and the stupid rehabilitation programmes that let these monsters go unpunished and free to do it again and again and mess up some other poor innocents life, it's called prevention not rehabilitation, you wanna start there if anywhere. Bringing back capital punishment only kills innocents too, why would you want that? You could be next. Not imprisoned wrongly then set free with millions of compenstation but gone for good, never to come back. If you want to bring capital punishement back how would you safegaurd it against hanging someone who is innocent and by the way would you bring back hanging or lethal injection because hanging is very barbaric, you don't just die straight away, your neck slowly breaks and you slowly suffocate, it takes ages to die, nice.

No not at all but wasn't your agruement for capital punishment Kennathmy or am i mistaken, are you suggesting that we shouldn't put rapists into jail for fear of imprisoning an innocent, which is hard to do because of forensics, it rarely happens.

Yes it is hard cheese that is where the system lies at fault, (but it rarely happens these days with forensics), but at least he still has his life and I think you'll find that is why the system doesn't want to take it's chances with killing innocent people, pretty obvious don't ya think?

Rarley isn't good enough as far as the death penalty lies. You're not making any sense to me anymore, I said the system has faults, rather that then not put rapists in prison right. It rarely happenns these days anyway and I've already said people don't want to take any chances with the death penalty as its' so permanent.