@manored,
manored;106901 wrote:I ask questions especting answers to the questions I asked, and that is all. If I ask a question and you dont answer it, that is a discourtesy, or an attempt of concealing ignorance. Either way, I dont like it then I make a question and the person I am making the question to doesnt answers. Who does?
Something similar applies if I make a comment and someone responds by commeting something with not even an initial relation to what I commented.
This whole thing is also know as "Getting out of topic", wich is generally disliked because if everone decides to discuss something different there is no discussion whatsoever.
And, we are, by the way, getting off topic, so lets get back on it =)
If you look at the history of science you can see that progress waited not on the answers to questions, but upon the right question to ask because when people knew what they were looking for the question was answered before asked... Now; I am not a scientist, though I have read about science, a lot, and that is the way it seems to me, that the proper question is only suggested by a certain level of knowledge...The mathematics was not more complex for the Ptolemaic conception of the universe, but the preconceptions parading as knowledge prevented the asking and answering of the question essential to a proper understanding...In a sense, you need to know, or at least guess the answer properly to ask the question in such a way that it can be answered...
When people do not trouble first to define their terms, as Voltair suggested, then their questions are more of a mental circle jerk... They really want to justify their prejudices...Look at how many years humanity has been concerned with justice, and how many pages Aristotle, for one, devoted to the subject in one form or another... What it is can never be defined as a absolute, and there are many a seeming dead end that may hide a key to understanding the whole code...
If I may offer an example....Galaleo at one point of his career defined acceleration as the change of speed over distance; and this is natural, intuitive, obvious and immediate...Yet, many years later he defined acceleration in the modern terms of rate of change of speed with respect to time... This is a change from a definition which inhibited scientific development to one which did not...The answer to the question what is acceleration waited on a definition of time, and time waited on a clock accurate enough to subdivide the seasons and days into hours and minutes...The contemporaries of Thomas Aquiness deliberately attempted to make a weight driven mechanical clock, but their efforts waited on an understanding and control of differential motions of all sorts...The invention of mechanical clocks walked hand in hand with mechanical progress of all sorts...Galileo was born in 1564, and died in 1642, the year on Newton's Birth; and he was contemporary with many of the great philosophers, writers, and scientists of near modern history...In the middle of the fourteenth century, some of the energy that had once expended itself on the building of cathedrals was diverted to the constructon of great clocks which were, like the churches, a point of civic pride...This quest for time was part of a great attempt by people to harness natural forces which could be regulated and coordinated...It is in the works of a great mathematician and ecclesiastic, Nicholas Oresmus, who died in 1382 that the metaphore of the universe as a vast mechanical clock created and set running by God so that all the wheels run as harmoniously as possible, is found...It was a notion with a future for science and metaphysics; but behind all that it is obvious that the capital which was building up the city was coming to own time, along with the lives of men....The greatest force of nature harnassed in the middle ages was the will of humanity...
Inevitably, it is because no instance of justice can be found formed in any modern society that may be applied without regard to the characters of those involved, and to the kinds of acts humanity is want to engage in- that no act of law may be called just which attempts to punish measure for measure...People are individuals and need individual justice, not to end their lives when their lives have become pitiful wrecks, but at every stage of life...There is no justice that is not reciprical, the same for each on every side of a question...There is no society that kills that does not deserve death... If the state with impunity can kill, then they can deny the stuff of life to one man on the say of his neighbors and country men...It is this unjust power of one over another which is turned to the tyranny of a few men over all men... All murder and violence is the result of injustice...Some times, that injustice runs the reach of a whole society, so what is it when one acts unjustly in the eyes of an unjust society??? Justice is found in a society when it is found in the people...But what have we??? A just people seek justice through their social forms, but what can the people do when their social forms inhibit justice, and keep the peace with law, and not too well???
