@Aedes,
Aedes;105037 wrote:Other way around...
The first question is Does anyone deserve to die for a crime? If yes, then the next question is How can we always discriminate those who deserve to die from those who don't?
The only reason any one should die is that it is expeditious...If it is not cheaper and have the desired effect and take less time than the alternative of life in prison then it has no fair justification...Government does all the right things wrong, and all the wrong things right, and it still costs too much and takes too long and does not work on anyone but the dead guy... No one feels better except the worst sort of people, and anyone with a calculator and a tax bill is bound to feel worse...The state breeds fear in all and respect in none, and capital punishment is a show piece of their failure...
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manored;107656 wrote:You mean "return life" as in "be freed"? If not, then I dont understand how that would work, since nobody can return life anyway =)
Not giving people a second chance is a waste, though I dont think everone deserves a second chance: some do.
I think white folks should all get a second chance, and thank God I did... When the cops work you over, deny you medical treatment so you will be in pain and partially paralyzed for life and then over charge the be jesus out of you, then a second chance is mighty handy; but I wouldn't recommend anyone blow that...The cops are all comedians- which fulfills the code of their ancient genre, but to see them as they are is to see tyranny walk on flat feet...
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It has come to my attention that some people might find this last post offensive to black people or others... Naturally as a person I think I deserve a second chance... My experience tells me that black people do not expect a fair chance, let alone a second chance, and I think it is this grudge, and resentment, which so many feel that actually contributes to much crime... For all those who take offense; let me suggest that if it is necessary to spell everything out to you, that no meaningful conversation will follow... I don't deliberately try to hurt people over what they cannot change, but if I did try to jab at some one over a fact that they cannot change, I would not consider it as bad as attacking some one over a fact that they can apparantly change, and the reason is this: What people are, seemingly by choice, is not something anyone can change easily because what people are has been arrived at by degrees, little by little, time after time... To attack some one on a fact they are presumed to be able to change is to attack their moral standing, because clearly what they are that they can change must be the result of a defective morality... And that is the worst thing to do if you really seek change from people, and not injury, because it forces people on the defensive... But if you kid a person about being black, or white, or a woman, or short, what can they do about it, and why should they take it seriously because it is not a moral choice... Attack me because I am Irish and German, or American... If you judge me for the color of my skin and not the content of my character, then the judgement is on you... But, though judgement is knowledge, it is not polite to judge others at all, and worse, to seek the authority to judge without knowledge...Is it worse to judge our whole society or culture; because that is my business...And to do that requires insight into many perspectives...
If I say whites should have a second chance I am not saying what I believe; but what most of us white folks take for granted, that we will not be treated as badly as blacks by the legal system...In fact; all people who have the intelligence and will power to change should have a second chance, including whites...In reality, even to black people the legal system does offer many opportunities for rehabilitation, and many warnings, and many examples... In the distant past, it was common to march a prisoner to his execution through a maze, and I expect that it was to remind the man that through turns of fortune, and twists of fate; but mostly by choices freely made had he reached the chopping block...
Is it wrong to assume that as an adult I am talking to adults, and that I need not spell out every nuance, or attempt at irony, or sarcasm???I am not a bad dog... Really...If you do not wish to understand what a person is saying there isn't much point talking...You can't say good morning to some folks if they are looking to find fault....