So a "perspective" is an 'opinion' that is not yet true or false; but it will definitely-become true or false if people give it just a little bit more time???

A "perspective" is an "opinion waiting for approval to become an opinion"?

I guess you will have to ask the "perspectivists". Although from what I can tell, none of them have a very clear understanding of the term either. It is one of those terms that gain reputation by being vague, but by seeming profound.

How could an opinion "become true". It is either true or false, but we can get to know whether it is true or false in time, by continuing to gather evidence for whether it is true or false. But the evidence for an opinion does not make the opinion true, it may, however help us to know whether the opinion is true.

I thought that perspectives cannot be true or false, but, certainly, opinions are true or false. In my opinion, Earth is the third planet. Isn't that true?

Only if you use the word opinion as a synonym for belief, much like a doctor gives you his professional "opinion". Though I think that's a misnomer because whether or not you have a certain disease is not just an opinion, it's a fact. Either you have lupus or you don't. An opinion cannot appeal to facts. That's what makes it an opinion. Engineers don't sit around swapping opinions about how wide a river channel is. They measure it.

Similarly, you believe that the Earth is the third planet from the Sun but it's not an opinion. It either is or it isn't the third planet. There's some fact about the universe that makes your belief true or false.

Contrast that to a belief that "classical music is awful". That's merely an opinion because there is no fact that we can appeal to. Even if everyone believed classical music is awful, that's still only a consensus, not a fact. We don't get to vote on facts (other than facts about how we vote after "the fact").

So a "perspective" is an 'opinion' that is not yet true or false; but it will definitely-become true or false if people give it just a little bit more time???

A "perspective" is an "opinion waiting for approval to become an opinion"?

It does not limit itself to "opinion," i.e., an individual's point of view, but includes collective perspectives as well. In the latter sense, one could provide the example of science as one kind of perspective and formal logic as another.

Why can't you have an opinion about whether something is a fact or not (true or not)?

Only if you use the word opinion as a synonym for belief, much like a doctor gives you his professional "opinion". Though I think that's a misnomer because whether or not you have a certain disease is not just an opinion, it's a fact. Either you have lupus or you don't.

An opinion cannot appeal to facts. That's what makes it an opinion. Engineers don't sit around swapping opinions about how wide a river channel is. They measure it.

Hi,

This is how I view it:

My perspective is based upon what I can sense or feel from my position in the universe - my own particular space/time coordinates. Someone standing right next to me will have a different perspective. In other words, everyone senses something different and will form opinions upon what they sense and the skills that they have developed.

Since, we all have to exist in this world within relationships, we share each others perspective and form a consensus within one or more relationship. Nothing is necessarily true, but any given person, can claim that their perspective is the one that is true. Then you have disagreements and arguments - which are just part of Life.

Rich

Whether or not something is a fact, is a fact, not an opinion. That's why.

It isn't necessarily true that all dogs are animals? What could a dog be if not an animal? I wonder how tolerant you would be of the perspectives of other, if the perspective of the man next to you happened to be that you were evil and inferior, and that the best thing for him to do is to cut off your head. He certainly can (and probably does) claim that his perspective is true. And, from your perspective, as you tell it here, you will probably agree with him. So, don't worry about it. You can form a consensus with him, and stretch out your neck in brotherhood.

Physicians come up with different diagnosis all the time. In the last go around, my friend was diagnosed in four different ways by four different physicians and was prescribed four different treatments. And that is the way of the world.



I think you will find that engineers will often come up with different measurements depending upon 1) who is measuring (measurements are dependent upon the person that is measuring), 2) what is decided should be measured, 3) the instruments being used, etc. There are many, many variables.

As in everything in life, the moment a human gets involved you have a whole new set of variables (e.g. skills, senses, opinions, approach, etc.), that yields distinct results.

Vive la difference!

Rich

You can have any belief you like about how a car will affect you if you stand in traffic but the solipsists always lose in a head-on collision with reality.

That's a fact.

There are cases where people survive.

So what? They still got hit by a car regardless of their beliefs. You seem to be avoiding a very obvious truth.

I understand your perspective. It is just that I do not find them to be true from my perspective.

Rich

Fast moving metal objects do not care about your perspective.

That's an inescapable fact that does not require belief.

*PERSONAL INSULT*

Actually, nameless, I am not "clueless" at all, thank you very much!

I know exactly-what I am talking about, always.

Then I pity you, that you must rely on a Dictionary for your Knowledge.

You see, I first learned to read, speak, and understand words from my mother and father, not a Dictionary.

And they learned from their mothers and fathers.

Try again, nameless

Isn't that exciting. No one else does, though, if you have your own meanings for words.

What does 'blue' mean to you?
How about 'house'?

Perhaps you'll write your own dictionarey some day..

Then we can read it and we can have an intelligent conversation.

Until then, you are alone in your sandbox.

Your bloated ego aside,

a dictionary is for 'education' for 'communication'. Thats what it is for.

You use words like ever... jeez, what the hell am I wasting time with you. We cant even discuss 'perspective' because you are clueless as to the meaning (outside your own little sandbox!).

Perhaps they were as ignorant as you?

I repeat for them to.


... don't think so.
nameless out