Hey I wonder why people have religions ..
like they have got no proof or so that for example god exists or talking about reincarnation and stuff
why they don't want to think further or so and get to the ultimate truth ?
I'm not saying that me beeing convinced that there isn't a god is common sense, that's pretty much the opposit. But doubting the exsistance of a god is common sense.
Most would consider it obsurd for someone to suggest that this is not true. Like most Atheists find their meaning for life, through the simple state of existing, and the presence of the world around them, Theists would find it in serving the ultimate will of the universe (i.e.diety). Even if that means resulting in negative outcomes, like war, discrimination, hatred-for to them it is the correct outcome. (the one they were damanded to follow and bring upon.)
Yes, there is a difference. "the ultimate will of the universe" would assumably be that of which it was created, having no actual will of it's oun. (i.e. diety).
An Atheist, usually, finds their meaning in simply being alive. They don't require the commandments, and "teachings" of a supposed all-knowing diety.
"Spirituality, in a narrow sense, concerns itself with matters of the spirit, a concept closely tied to religious belief and faith, a transcendent reality, or one or more deities. Spiritual matters are thus those matters regarding humankind's ultimate nature and purpose, not only as material biological organisms, but as beings with a unique relationship to that which is perceived to be beyond both time and the material world. Spirituality also implies the mind-body dichotomy, which indicates a separation between the body and soul." -wiki
An Atheist typically doesn't believe in spiritual presence, nor anything that could create such an existance. To say an Atheist "is not religious only in so far as he prefers not to use certain styles of figurative language" would be to assume the same about an individual who WAS religious. I say to the best that I believe, and I do not believe in spiritual theologies, nor diety related theories.
Why would someone follow the words, and commandments of a deity if they did need to, or or feel they had to?
The Christian religion for example usually states that if you do not follow the teachings of jesus, and live without sin that you would go to hell, and burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.
So, would it not be a requirement to follow the teachings of this diety in order to make to the heaven, and live their lives correctly?
My point was that many [only many] Theists find it important to follow the word, and the will of their particular belief system, or diety. Atheists, typically, do not.
I have already said I wasn't trying to sum up the personal beliefs of all theists. (that includes Christians). I was only using those who DO believe what I was describing as an example.
Hi Benjamin and fellow european
I'm what people call an atheist, which means as you seem to do, I don't belive in any higher supernatural fairytale god or the easterbunny.
The main reason why religion work is simple, fear. Fear of death, fear of hell, fear of gods wrath, fear of what comes after death, fear to be on your own in a evil world and most of all fear of "what if they're right?". Also simple things like to refuse to realize that we aren't here to serve a higher cause or not beeing able to accept how mankind came to from other creatures as evolution have enourmous evidence to prove makes religion go around.
And for why children often stay in the same religion as their parents are simple propaganda (people are gonna hate me now) and brainwashing as they are told from the day that they are born how their religion see the world and how it was created, makes them say grace and pray for new things, then reward them with the thing they prayed for while the parents don't understand that they have been manipulated into manipulating. And if somebody claimed that everything you had ever known, that your picture of the world that makes so much sense with flawed logic and no proof apart from some book, which they see as proof, not as the fantasy novel it is. So simply: parents trick their children into beliving in something just because they belive in it.
This is ofcourse just my conclusions and theorys...
Hope I helped
Don't know if I should have answerd in the young people forum, Justin, if I shouldn't have, tell me would you?
It is good to believe in god no matter what. One, it will help in life. I can not name one thing in my religon that will not help you in life, with or without god. Even prayer helps believe it or not. second of all, religon makes you feel alot better. It is good to know there is someone up there. Is it a crime to have that feeling? I do not understand what is wrong with believing in god.
There's little wrong with believing in god, but there is also an equal amount of wronglessness with not believing. Pray if you like, follow the gospels, listen to your priest, but don't for one moment believe that good feelings don't exist without religion.
you can get more good feelings when you beleive. I think there are two kinds of atheist. The first is the one who dose'nt care and does anything because there is no god to hold him back. The next is the good atheist who tries his best not to do bad things that will ruin his life. However without the knowledge of the punishment of hell he may do some bad things. Maybe more than people who beleive in god. It is safer to beleive in god. One may argue that you still do bad things while beleiving in god. But the thought that you might go to hell stops you from doing bad things to much. While bevieing in god you do not make as many choices that will affect your life as if you did'nt beleive in god. While believing in god, you can have good feelings for most of the time.
I understand that when people belive they will go to Hell if they do wrong and Heaven if they are good, society gets along pretty well, but I think that people should realizes themselves that they should follw laws and be good because it betters society instead of fearing the pit of hell.