@Pythagorean,
Pythagorean;131969 wrote:
Pursuit of the real or of the truth should be the paramount concern of philosophy. They are pursuing anti-philosophy, which is politically, culturally and historically motivated. Parochial prejudice, plain and simple.
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I agree. Also there are strange birds like Rorty in the middle somewhere.
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kennethamy;131971 wrote:
Now if you have reason to think that either the Spaghetti Monster, or the thing-in-itself, exists, put up the proof, and maybe we'll discuss it. But don't say it is up to me to prove that either one does not exist. It isn't.
The thing-in-itself is a limiting concept. Mind-independent reality is an
exaggeration of the thing-in-itself. Kant
knew that the thing-in-itself was a limiting concept, and I have
quoted him in that other similar thread.
Your "mind-independent reality"
is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The burden of proof is on
you. "Mind-independent" reality is a paradox. Objectivity is
grounded in social interaction. A non-paradoxical substitute for "mind-independent" reality would be
social or objective reality. Although they are easily confused, objective reality
is not "mind-independent" reality.