Generalizations, that are impossible to demonstrate, okay. But what else is earth day for?

Who doesn't forget about it the next day?

You know, there are people who are involved and even work for environmental groups like Green Peace and the Sierra Club. I would imagine that at least these people do not forget about the environment after Earth Day.

They dont waste their time with gestures.

I think there is a collective will, however weak that will may be. The real problem is getting the collective will to value quality of life over the bottom line of finance.

Caroline:
There are always going to be greedy people who want to make a quick buck. The key is probably going to be a gradual change in base ideology and legality on an intergenerational timescale. That and the fact that one day even greedy people will understand environmental stewardship to be a necessity for life itself. Take the example I used earlier in the thread, that of Civil Rights in American and for that matter most of the industrialized world. It took several generations to go from see non-white people as subhuman to for instance (and I'm not saying this is an example of a cured system) having a non-white president. There are still people in the world who traffic in slavery, there are still supremacist groups who would erradicate or subjugate non-white people, but the general population, even the greedy ones wouldn't take it as given that there are equal-ish rights, at least in the legal sense between the races. The same will have to happen for the Environment if it is to happen at all.

Cheers,
Russ

Yeah I know Russ, but what if it takes too long for people to realise, what if then it's too late? I hope that it wont come to that but if you say these things take time, time is something we dont have alot of. I know there will always be greed and I understand why because I felt it myself once and it can easily consume one to the point of blindness, for some reason i never became that person, (greedy), but what a waste of a life, to be consumed with greed, not be aware of the negative impact it has on others or just too selfish to care and go to the grave with what? Nothing!

You are actually making a fallacy of inductive inference. Just because what was said in 1970 did not come true, does not mean that what is said in 2009 will not be true in 40 years. Therefore, you cannot make the claim that there is no truth in environmental scares based on this use of inductive reasoning to predict the future.

I honestly believe with the sentiment we see now about there being no problem with global warming we are doomed.If after 99% of scientists attribute this accepted catastrophic global warming down to man burning fossil fuels,what in the hell will convince them.

It's a far smaller percentage of scientists than that, maybe not even half. And most scientists know that it's rubbish, very few scientists dare to say that it's rubbish, because anyone dares to say none of this adds up gets penalized and moved to smaller offices with no daylight.
Global warming is a myth, invented for political reasons.

1. From 1715 sun activity took up again after the coldest period in 10.000 years, the temperature in central England (was the only place that was measured at that time) rose by four degrees Fahrenheit in 35 years. That is a rate a rate of warming nine times as fast as the warming in the whole of the 20th century, 1.3 degrees. And that was before the industrial revolution began and we could have anything to do with it.

2. In the last four years the earth has been global cooling, at a rate that if it continued we would be in an ice age by 2020.

3. The amount of CO2 going into the atmosphere is only half of what the computer models that this entire case for global warming bases on are using.

A few days ago Al Gore was to speak before congress. The speaker for the other side, Lord Christopher Monckton, was banned from speaking, after being flown in from London, because he would have embarrassed Al Gores lies.

Ive been here so many times with what i would call, if i was being polite ,exaggerations of the truth.
Scientists are not scared nor are they determined to lie to the public.If you search any reasonable scientific magazines your find that it is over 90% of scientists.One period in recent history does not make the whole of the global warming issue proved wrong for heavens sake.Sea temperatures ocean acidity,glaciers disappearing,core samples from the arctic tell the story, no other time in the worlds history has the temperature risen so quickly and so dramatically.World temperatures are dropping ? tell me where you do get your information?

I would like you to listen to this. Download the audio file, and jump to minute 18. Listen to the end.
Then listen to thisfrom the beginning, but you can jump 3 minutes in.

If you do that, I like to hear your response.