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Azoth
 
Reply Fri 26 Oct, 2007 03:14 pm
I am interested in Walter Russell's periodic table of elements. I am specifically interested in the harmonic math's behind it. I think I understand it in general however I am confused about the harmonic values of the Isotopes. Perhaps its better if I refer my questions to the chart.
If we look at the wave segment which contains Potassium, Calcium etc the elements can be assigned the following musical/vibrational value: Argon = Do, Potassium = Re, Calcium = Mi, Scandium = Fa,
Cobalt = Sol, Arsenic = Fa, Selenium =Mi, Bromine = Ra, Kripton = Do. For argument sake lets say Argon had a value of 100 what would be the values of the other elements and isotopes in this wave ie from Argon to Kripton?
 
ncowmail
 
Reply Sat 27 Oct, 2007 09:43 pm
@Azoth,
Which Russell book is this information found in, Azoth?
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2007 01:19 pm
@Azoth,
http://www.philosophy.org/images/zoom/scientific/viewsize/63.jpg
http://www.philosophy.org/images/zoom/scientific/viewsize/atomic_suicide.jpg
DO helium, RE lithium MI berylium FA Boron SOL carbon FA nitrogen MI oxygen, RE fluorine, DO helium.
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2007 01:26 pm
@esaruoho,
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/russtbl.gif

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/elem.gifhttp://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/compass.gif
 
cmarie phil
 
Reply Sun 28 Oct, 2007 09:05 pm
@esaruoho,
Those tables are fascinating! I am just starting to read some of Russell's work, and these ideas are really giving me much food for thought.

Thank you for posting.
 
Azoth
 
Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 10:17 am
@cmarie phil,
Esaruoho, where did you get that coloured chart from, it not in any of the books I have seen.
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Thu 1 Nov, 2007 09:30 am
@Azoth,
Azoth wrote:
Esaruoho, where did you get that coloured chart from, it not in any of the books I have seen.


hello.. i recommend going to Welcome The Univeristy of Science and Philosophy, clicking on Gallery, and selecting scientific diagrams or scientific drawings. if you would like some more, i would recommend checking out the scientific diagrams on Walter Russell
the big chart i got from another walter russell cosmogeny page, which has been around for quite some time, here:
Walter Russell 'Physics' Homepage
oh.. and i believe that the coloured chart has been published ina t least "in the wave lies the secret of creation", written by dr. tim binder, showing some previously unreleased scientific diagrams by russell. not sure if ithas been used in anything else? anyone know if it is in the 3rd edition of the home study course? Smile


just to save you some time, this accesses the scientific drawings available from philosophy.org (albeit they are pretty low-resolution)

University of Science and Philosophy - P.O. Box 520, Waynesboro, VA 22980

here are lots of diagrams, unfortunately, some of them have been translated into german. but some are there that are still in english, or without words, which are not on philosophy.org

Diagrams by Walter Russell
(also, they feature some explanations from the home study course and other books, in english, so they might be worth a gander)



seriously, i would really appreciate it if all of the russell scientific diagrams were available, online, for free, so people could become more aware of his amazing amount of work and clarity of thought.

after all, we cant access these types of lectures anymore:
<img>http://www.walter-russell.de/Illustrationen/Fotos/Bilder/WRussellDozent80jaehrig.jpg
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2007 12:03 am
@esaruoho,
On Russell's chart of the elements, the elements are placed along a continuous spectrum of increasing compression and resulting density and are organized into octaves. The inert gases act as the beginning and end of each octave.

The chart organizes the elements in increasing order according to melting points and other characteristics until it reaches carbon.

Carbon, placed in the center of the fourth octave, is seen to be the balance point for the full chart and the point of perfect stability.

Elements up until carbon are, according to Russell, integrating or condensing until a maximum of pressure results in the formation of carbon.

Elements past carbon on the chart are expanding or disintegrating leading to the phenomenon of radioactivity.

Russell proposes that there is no such thing as transmutation from one element to another. One element can never become another, for each is voided when another condition makes its continuance impossible, and another one possible.
The best example of this is to be seen upon the sun. "Hydrogen flames leap for thousands of miles into the sun's atmosphere, yet there is no hydrogen at all upon the sun's surface until the time of its leaping into flame. If the amount of hydrogen which explodes from the sun's surface in one week existed upon the sun, there would be no sun. The sun generates hydrogen and it burns simultaneously."

Russell maintained that elements were not things, they are conditions.

from a rare article on magnets-magazine Smile
http://www.scene.org/%7Eesa/russell_figure1_universal_nine_octave_cycle.JPGand the same image from walter-russell.de http://www.walter-russell.de/Illustrationen/Diagramme/Bilder/Russell_073.gifexplanation from walter-russell.de:
The Nine Octaves of the Elements

The universal nine octave cycle.

An invariable characteristic of Nature is to express life-death cycles of any idea, in nine lesser interweaving cycles enfolded in the one. When we think of man as an idea, we think of him as grown up to fullness of middle age. Until then, we think of generating man as infant, child and youth. Following his generating cycles come the degenerative ones in which he gradually repays all of his borrowings from his zero of rest and returns to that zero to again borrow power to re-express the idea of man.


http://www.walter-russell.de/Illustrationen/Diagramme/Bilder/P1000065.jpg
Light and Darkness

Darkness is compressed into incandescence. .

Then incandescence is then divided to again become darkness.
Bottom figures:
Giant Nebulas compress darkness into light and expand light into darkness to crate bodies and destroy them.
http://www.walter-russell.de/Illustrationen/Diagramme/Bilder/P1000064.jpg
Whirl Pool of Motion

This figure illustrates Nature's method of winding light up into solid spheres to create the condition of gravity at troughs and crests of waves. The effect of gravitation is produced
When Nature desires to create a solid body of matter, she first expands and evacuates a great volume of space. This causes a black hole where space has been evacuated.
The light within it has been seemingly taken out to create dark, and that which has been thus pumped out has been simultaneously wound up wound up centripetally to create incandescence.
Darkness is an effect produced by dividing light into long light-waves and incandescence is the opposite effect produced by multiplying light by shortening its light-waves.
Solidity is thus born out of vacuity. A positive pole is created on one side of a dividing equator and its equal negative opposite is created on the other side.
Space is thus created simultaneously with its centering suns, just as the two poles of a bar magnet are simultaneously created. As the suns are gradually wound up inside black holes of space, the interchange between the two becomes more and more intense. The winding up into centripetal vortices multiplies gravitational power and radiative power alike. The power of gravitation to pull in, however, exceeds the power of radiation to resist it during the half cycle in which true spheres are being formed, and then the power of radiation increases to unwind the spheres in the other half of the cycle.
As radiative power increases, the cold, black holes of space, which are outside of hot suns, bore right through the suns and dissipate them centrifugally by making rings of what have been spherical suns for billions of years. There are hundreds of examples of these rings in the heavens, but a conspicuously good example of rings in this solar system are those that surround Saturn
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 09:26 pm
@Azoth,
Untitled Document
this has highest possible quality scans of the russell charts. which is great. just found it today, looked for russell periodic charts via images.google.com.
they aregreat quality, an di believe from atomic suicide or universal one, im not really sure. i havent seen a non-wrecked version of the two charts (without those handwritings on top of them) ever before.
 
rado
 
Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:40 pm
@esaruoho,
esaruoho wrote:
Untitled Document
this has highest possible quality scans of the russell charts. which is great. just found it today, looked for russell periodic charts via images.google.com.
they aregreat quality, an di believe from atomic suicide or universal one, im not really sure. i havent seen a non-wrecked version of the two charts (without those handwritings on top of them) ever before.


Hey, that's from my website. They were not supposed to be publicly accessible (copyright etc.), but I guess you can't hide anything from google... :rolleyes:

Rado
 
esaruoho
 
Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:49 pm
@rado,
rado wrote:
Hey, that's from my website. They were not supposed to be publicly accessible (copyright etc.), but I guess you can't hide anything from google... :rolleyes:

Rado



is there more? Very Happy
 
mostovic
 
Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2008 04:48 am
@esaruoho,
Hi, this is very important to me, please could anyone tell which book contains that page of periodic table which I show on picture in the link? Is there any chance that someone post rest of octaves with elements (I mean other pages following page 94)? Please this is very important to me. Thank you.

4,5,6,_octaves_2 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
 
rado
 
Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2008 07:20 am
@mostovic,
mostovic wrote:
Hi, this is very important to me, please could anyone tell which book contains that page of periodic table which I show on picture in the link?


It's from The Universal One.

https://www.philosophy.org/index.php?page=shop.product_details&amp;flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&amp;product_id=115&amp;category_id=1&amp;manufacturer_id=0&amp;option=com_virtuemart&amp;Itemid=26

As far as I understand this is an edited version however, not containing all the illustrations from the original version. E.g. in "Crystallization Chart No. 1" Russell writes: "By this series of charts... (etc. etc.)" but there is only chart no. 1 in the book.

Does anyone happen to have a copy of the original version?

Rado
 
mostovic
 
Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2008 07:55 am
@rado,
Thanks Rado very much. The thing is I need to see the properties of elements like meting point or boiling points as Russell showed in his work. This is very important for me. If anyone has more than just 3 octaves showing properties of elements made by Russell, please let me know. Thank you.
 
rado
 
Reply Fri 11 Jul, 2008 08:12 am
@mostovic,
mostovic wrote:
Thanks Rado very much. The thing is I need to see the properties of elements like meting point or boiling points as Russell showed in his work. This is very important for me. If anyone has more than just 3 octaves showing properties of elements made by Russell, please let me know. Thank you.


I've sent you a PM...

Rado
 
Beach
 
Reply Thu 27 Nov, 2008 03:01 pm
@rado,
hello i have in my possesion walter russels octave chart. i was wondering how it worked and was wondering if it has anything to do with the orbitals of the elements?
 
Phoenix phil
 
Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2009 11:02 am
@esaruoho,
Just a few small points to clarify.... There is no such thing as a vacuum in WR theories. I hope when you say 'created from vacuity' you mean from tenunity. There are no black holes either. Black holes have no place in WR cosmology. Space is black light, which can not be sensed by humans. Matter is born from a plane of inertia. At this plane there is NO motion. It is the fulcrum of all movement. One needs to visualise a point of matter surrounded by an equivalent potential of cubic space. The space is not empty, it is the negative half of the wave while the matter is expressed on the positive half of the wave. Matter and space are the two opposites of the SAME thing.

"Darkness is an effect produced by dividing light into long light-waves and incandescence is the opposite effect produced by multiplying light by shortening its light-waves."

Darkness is a simulated light. It simulates light in inertia which is still and unchanging.
Some of your descriptions are out of context.
The Sun is created from dark space. The low potential of space is wound up in incandesances through the poles. This process continues until the entire 9 octave cycle is expressed. Sure when the Sun reaches it's ++4 position on the wave it will have achieved a true sphere. The generative desire will be at it maximum, but so too will the desire to radiate be at it maximum, and so that part of the cycle will commence.
When a positive pole is born it is ca. 99% positive, not split by an equator. Positive means a condition between +1 and ++4.
Regards...alan
 
dalesvp
 
Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 01:12 pm
@Azoth,
Azoth;5505 wrote:
I am interested in Walter Russell's periodic table of elements. I am specifically interested in the harmonic math's behind it.
For argument sake lets say Argon had a value of 100 what would be the values of the other elements and isotopes in this wave ie from Argon to Kripton?


Russell's elements are not founded in a base 10 number system so assigning 100 to an element might not pan out for you. Here is a piece of a larger work I've been putting together to clarify Russell's octave concept as also his ideas concerning elements, locked potentials, etc. The frequency numbers are tentative and the music notes are not standard but they all give some idea. It may be possible to assign an approximate musical interval value to the elements of interest. I haven't done that yet but shouldn't be too difficult or time consuming.

http://www.svpvril.com/forum_images/WRelements.jpg
 
Phoenix phil
 
Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 01:55 pm
@dalesvp,
I see the locked potentials working in a similiar fashion to the Chladni effect. As the gyroscopic frequency changes the 'form' changes immediately. The higher the frequency/octave the more complex the form. This implies if you vibrate/irradiate Hg with the Au frequencies you can transmute Hg to Au. Remember gold is just a frequency pattern, and sympathetic vibration is all you need.
 
dalesvp
 
Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 02:48 pm
@Phoenix phil,
Phoenix;61999 wrote:
I see the locked potentials working in a similiar fashion to the Chladni effect. As the gyroscopic frequency changes the 'form' changes immediately. The higher the frequency/octave the more complex the form.


Russell's Locked Potentials system is a geometric expansion/contraction of volume. (more on this later.) WR related it to music but it does not relate to the standard music scale. It does, however, have a Fibonacci component. Ordinarily as the number of modes increase the more complex the patterns and vibratory and oscillatory motions.

Circular Membrane Modes

Quote:
This implies if you vibrate/irradiate Hg with the Au frequencies you can transmute Hg to Au. Remember gold is just a frequency pattern, and sympathetic vibration is all you need.


Yes, all elements are frequencies but not one single frequency although one tone could be seen as its keynote or fundamental. Each element has multiple frequencies or a chord of discrete frequencies/notes usually called its spectra. I did some work on this some time ago:

SVP - Periodic Table Set to Music

If all one had to do was modulate one element with the vibrations of another element to get a third element (Law of the Triangle?) then the trick would have been accomplished a long time ago.

---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:48 PM ----------

Here are two graphics. The first is Russell's unmodified. The second one is one I modified to make the point.

http://www.svpvril.com/images/159.JPEG

http://www.svpvril.com/images/41_159_compo.gif
 
 

 
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