I have just posted this some time ago but I shall repeat: God's existence equals to his non-existence for us. That is if he exists and is perfect, then he has no concerns about human life. Otherwise it would be possible for man to do harm for him through disobedience e.g.; and if it is possible to do him harm he is not perfect, rather kind of more powerful organism like alien.
Alan, I hope thou art aware that thy experiences in clinical death may seem for others to be just hallucinations.
And the fact that very few remain atheists in trenches shows only that they were not real atheists earlier, that is they used "atheism" for other goals (e,g, political). Fear is not a good argument of belief. It is easy to die peacefully without belief. I am recalling Epicurus.

I have just posted this some time ago but I shall repeat: God's existence equals to his non-existence for us. That is if he exists and is perfect, then he has no concerns about human life. Otherwise it would be possible for man to do harm for him through disobedience e.g.; and if it is possible to do him harm he is not perfect, rather kind of more powerful organism like alien.
Alan, I hope thou art aware that thy experiences in clinical death may seem for others to be just hallucinations.
And the fact that very few remain atheists in trenches shows only that they were not real atheists earlier, that is they used "atheism" for other goals (e,g, political). Fear is not a good argument of belief. It is easy to die peacefully without belief. I am recalling Epicurus.

Kaynafshar, what for do we need to believe? Is not the very idea of god only heritage from past generations? Nowadays we can explain the world through science and do not need to be afraid of any "gods". It is stupid to establish morality on uncertain things like god etc., but if ethics needs not god, what for should we belive? By the way, what dost thou mean by "God"?

y God I am reffering to our devine creator, and what I believe is the only God.

I can ask the same about your god. There is just as much evidence about flying pink elephants as there is for your god.

This statement always makes me laugh because you are in complete denial that billions came before you and made the same claim, except they were referring to Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo, ect. ect. ect.

My near death experience of which I know much more about than you do "Was not a hallucination of any kind"

Hallucinations are confused and meaningless.

How am I so sure my NDE was not an hallucination, because I have both hallucinated and had a profound NDE the difference between the two events was like comparing one to infinity

what is perfect? can you really define something as perfect when we ourselves are so far from it? whos to say your view of perfect is the correct one?
By God I am reffering to our devine creator, and what I believe is the only God. An all "perfect" being, an answer to unanswerable questions, and something that calls to my heart which i cannot explain.

Mircals. Our God has proven himself many times over to thos who did not believe in my opinion. Even things today such as the unchanged Qhoran, Wonders of nature on earth, an incomprehensible space...
and you assume thos were the only people on earth that had a belief? thats one small group of people out of the entire world. and sort of grounds for their belief did they have? just look at the Qhoran. it told that the world revolved around the sun hundreds of years before Galileo or Copernicus. and on top of that was written by an illiterate man.

quote=Eudaimon;63984Well, Alan, but thine experiences surely cannot prove me or someone else that god exists. Frankly speaking I don't need god.

One remark: art thou not sinner? Why god should love thee and hate Hitler?