But the laws of logic wouldn't care if you prayed or went to church. And the laws of logic cannot be Jesus, a man who walked on water and made a crowd un-hungry with just some pieces of bread and fish. In school we learn that all our energy comes from the sun, nothing can disapear or appear out of nothing, it can just be converted between different forms. God can create energy, I mean you don't split the red sea without energy. So if you can't explain that I can't belive you.

The laws of logic are not a personal agent. Therefore, while I find your argument to be compelling, it will never be compelling for any Christian. Ever.

I can disprove this theory by simply posing a question to this so called logical god.

"Give me a riddle in which you can not solve".

If everything you explained were in fact true then god would not be able to fulfill this request. Therefore saying god is logical is an untrue statement. Sorry...

Is the god that the Christians speak of a personal agent? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought he was untangible.

I can disprove this theory by simply posing a question to this so called logical god.

"Give me a riddle in which you can not solve".

If everything you explained were in fact true then god would not be able to fulfill this request. Therefore saying god is logical is an untrue statement. Sorry...

He is considered to be a disembodied person, yes.

Besides, I think logic cannot have an ethical element.

Disembodied person?!?!?!? So he's a person, but he has no body? He's a person, but he's not a person? If you dont have a body, then you are intangible, just like logic.

Why cant ethics be logically proved?

We have magicians in the modern world who do actions that seem like miracles all the time, but in reality, they are just optical illusions. With that said, is it more logical that Jesus actually walked on water, fed a crowd with a "few pieces of bread", etc., or is it more logical that Jesus was a magician/optical illusionist/con artist whos secrets were never revealed?

Hello everybody. This is my first post. I just wrote this essay about how the god of Christianity and the laws of logic are the same thing. I know that this is probably the 129347128937192 post about God but still please read. Thanks!




The god that the Christians speak of is said to be omnipotent - that is, this god has the power to do anything that is possible. This implies that this god cannot do what is logically impossible to do. In other words, this god is restrained by the laws of logic. It is obvious that the laws of logic can't do what is logically impossible to do. Therefore, the laws of logic are just as powerful as this god. Thus the laws of logic are omnipotent. Omnipotence can only be applied to one thing in the universe, by definition. This implies that the laws of logic are the god that the Christians speak of.
The god that the Christians speak of is said to be omniscient - that is, this god knows everything that can possibly be known. This implies that this god cannot know what is logically impossible to know. It is obvious that the laws of logic can't know/deduce what is logically impossible to know/deduce. Therefore, the laws of logic are just as knowledgable as this god. Thus the laws of logic are omniscient. Omniscience can only be applied to one thing in the universe, by definition. This implies that the laws of logic are the god that the Christians speak of.
The god that the Christians speak of is said to be omnipresent - that is, this god is present everywhere all the time, except for places that are impossible for this god to exist. This implies that this god cannot exist in a place that is logically impossible to be in. It is obvious that the laws of logic can't exist in a place that is logically impossible to be in. Therefore, the laws of logic are in the same places as this god. Thus the laws of logic are omnipresent. Omnipresence can only be applied to one thing in the universe, by definition. This implies that the laws of logic are the god that the Christians speak of. It follows that if there is a place where this god can't exist, or Hell, then it is a state of mind, or a place, where the laws of logic do not exist - insanity.
The god that the Christians speak of is said to be truth - that is, this god is the unified consistency of statements and their correspondence with the facts of reality. This implies that it is logically impossible for this god to lie. It is obvious that it is logically impossible for the laws of logic to lie, or deduce something that isn't true. Therefore, the laws of logic are just as truthful as this god. Thus, the laws of logic are truth. Truth can only be applied to one thing in this universe, by definition. This implies that the laws of logic are the god that the Christians speak of.
The god that the Christians speak of is said to be omnibenevolent - that is, this god is perfect, and this god is morally good. In other words, this god is perfectly good, as opposed to perfectly evil. This implies that this god is incapable of doing anything that could be considered evil. It is obvious that the laws of logic are incapable of doing anything that could be considered evil (a lack of logic, or insanity). Therefore, the laws of logic are just as good as this god. Thus, the laws of logic are omnibenevolent. Omnibenevolence can only be applied to one thing in this universe, by definition. This implies that the laws of logic are the god that the Christians speak of.

Well in Christianity there is one thing that God cannot do It is impossible for God to lie (and still be God)

God is not omni- benevolence or omni- everything, if god were then of course he must also be omni- stupid would he not

God can and does do evil Isiah 45 "I form the light and make the dark, I create peace and I make evil I God do all these things" (from memory)

I dont think we can equate God with human attributes, god is far and above us "His ways are not our ways and his thought are as hight as the heaven when compared to our" (heaven is really really high)

God set down the laws of logic so I think he is constrained by them

I do not think God is Infinite, although he is eternal (a circle of ceaseless creation)

God is evolving and moving towards infinity

God does not belong to Christians or any religious faith God simply is who he

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A little girl was intensely drawing something in class, the teacher asked her
What are you drawing". I am drawing god she replied. The teacher said , no one knows what god looks like

They will in a minute of two replied the little girl

You cannot assume God cannot lie, it is just he does not. God according to my faith is a "moral" God, and loves us all. What God says is truth in my eyes.

What do you define as evil? how can we as humans judge Gods actions from Good and Bad when we cannot ourselves give a universal meaning to the word "Good".

I agree, God works in mysterious ways, and what certain logic to God may not be logical to us because certain things may be uncomprehensible to our minds as physical, human beings in this reality.

I disagree, God made us in his immage, and in tern gave us free will to question ourselves. It is never said that we were given the same mindset of God, or his reasoning.

I disagree, I believe God is infinite in power, and can be in all places at the same time.

What do you mean by "God is evolving"?

I agree. We may all view God in different ways, and worship him countless ways, but he is the only God nonetheless. i believe it is not in a exclusivists view of religion that the path to rightiousness is found, but in the daily morals one follows with the willingness to stay on the path to God and to keep an open and loving heart.