@ughaibu,
ughaibu;148106 wrote:Says which? Are you suggesting LEM should be discarded for this question?
Okay, rigorise your position, under which circumstances does the LEM apply?
Otherwise, if you're espousing a discrete ontology, whereby you disregard almost all modern science, what is your argument for determinism?.
I am not trying to disregard anything, but simply pointing that if a set its not closed, (if a set is not a set) to where I stand nothing inside it can be defined or related...
but there is more:
Movement in a continuous, infinitely divisible Space turns into a nightmare...
Infinite Space, Infinite Energy Infinite causal progression means an "open set" were ultimately nothing has any sort of explanation, less alone a necessary one. Discrete Space and finite amounts of Energy (even if huge) would make it easier on some of this issues...
ughaibu;148106 wrote:Bollocks. Science is limited by the need to offer predictions, predictions are, by their nature, deterministic, so the models proposed by scientists are of no consequence, for this question.
You won?t be able to compute the Universe without a computer with its size, so as far as I know, only BEING can do that, and IT does that everyday...(Phenomenology brought up from Noumena)
An infinite Multi/Universe implies that becoming, the process where we walk towards the future is not potentially settled a priori, so that any of its parts/variables (from a given Multiverse) can ultimately be explained or justified in terms of final causes in relation to the Whole...
Final Causes bring to LAW a true sense of NECESSITY by opposing BEING against Nothingness...thus settling, What is and can be, against What is not, and that therefore cannot be...and such that, or there is pure Unity and total coherence in a closed set, or a total chaotic split, in a open ended infinite panorama...were you are left with correlation and probability statistics...
A Multiverse level 3 where the wave function does not collapse and all possibilities are a priori consequence of a determined cause distributed between parallel Universes, explains apparent random behaviour and can bring Necessity to Law if we come to sort the infinity problem...we get a closed set, as a Whole, justifying all its parts and filling all possible courses of action in a confined (Multiverse/Universe) Space...
...is important to remind that Being must not grow in nothingness, as nothingness does not exist...so, at some point infinities must be thrown away for achieving an a priori self existing Reality perfectly justified as all there is...
Another issue to be clarified, is that LAW is not predicting what is possible in a prescriptive way because the future is already a priori written (instantaneously Existing), but its only reflecting its Total Nature...
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Bottom line here is that I am not trying to attack Scientific studies on this issues, as I admire all those guys since I has a child, but I am simply trying to come up with a fully satisfying answer...