@Krumple,
Krumple;124310 wrote:Well shouldn't the "imbecile" have the freedom to sit in front of the screen and masturbate? Funny how you insight freedom yet immediately contradict yourself. I guess you really don't offer freedom but instead just say you do. It also goes against your "understanding" as well since you should have realized you were being contradicting.
Well, my friend, don't put the words I did not say in my mouth. I am not going to ban pornography. Thou knowst, in the S.U. it was banned but the first thing people tried tried to do when they were abroad was to go and watch it.
Why should we always think in the terms of banning or giving permission? In the societies where pornography or prostitution are allowed they become business, that is socially accepted thing. When you collect taxes from it, you actually accept it as something "normal".
When you ban it you create a forbidden fruit.
The only thing we can do is to be free from it ourselves without trying to regulate it.
Krumple;124310 wrote: Sometimes the women actually want to do it, and the money is a bonus. I am not saying all cases but there are hundreds of thousands of women who sell their images to make money, weather naked or not, they do it. You can not claim all of them are victims. That would be like calling everyone who has a job, a victim.
Yes, a lot of women are offering their images themselves, but what connexion does it have with what I said? I think we should first of all examine what is victim. Thou obviously meanst that this is a person who is forced to do that job, forced physically or economically. I can see beyond all that, beyond that so-called "freedom of choice". When we look at those girls that do that, when we look with open heart we can see a tragedy which stays behind all that. That tragedy is, as I have said, that they stop believing in Good, in something which transcends egoism and that animal struggle for surviving and reproduction. For them the ideal of Beauty, Good and Truth does not exist. And they don't want it to exist, because it will show them their own misery.
Krumple;124310 wrote: Yeah and it is subjective weather you call the first evil actually a true evil or just one's opinion. Therefore you can't claim that it is an evil being justified by another.
Perhaps the influence of violence in films is a matter of another discussion. I think it is obvious that it raises the level of violence in society. See Aggression by L. Berkowitz.
Krumple;124310 wrote:That is only one case and you can not claim that all sons would feel negative or have psychological issues if their mother was a porn star. You can't make that claim, instead you are only basing it off your own opinion.
If thou acceptest that, well... To me, the image of mother has always been connected with the idea of self-forgetfulness, with the supremacy of reason over instincts. I think that for every child his mother the symbol of that.
Now you take him and say: "Thy mother is ***** as well all other *****es. Look what she is doing, she is not better than thou."
What do you do with the soul of this child, of this human? You kill this faith in love in him, from his childhood you teach him that even his Mother -- what can be holier than mother for a child? -- is nothing but an animal. Is it surprise therefore, that now we are living in a society of egoist?
Krumple;124310 wrote:I think the real damage comes from trying to continuously make sex taboo. There was a case just recently where a young girl made a joke about wanting one of her classmates in a sexual way and she got branded for it. She was routinely harassed by other classmates because of the joke she eventually killed herself because she couldn't take the ridicule. She never even kissed a boy let alone had sex and look at what societies taboo led her to do.
Taboos exist in a hypocritical society where one has to play that he doesn't want to have sex, whereas inwardly he is always ready for it. But what happens when desire disappears? When we see what it really is, it dissolves both inwardly and outwardly. What is here to taboo?
