Are you trying to embarrass me or teach me?
HexHammer; 'it's a real shame that they cant be kept to their own fora, where they belong'
Says to me, 'shut up or get out'. Dunce in the corner. It may not be but sounds alot like segregation, it sounds almost bigoted and 'i am the superior race', 'i am the model and the righteous' 'you are the weak the unworthy' and what i found most troubling was that you agreed with this statement without showing up the inaccuracy, without disagreeing with this what sounds to me like hatred, yes i heard hatred in these words and you agreed with it. I can deal with someones hate, i cant deal with it being agreed with.
Overall this has troubled me becuase it is saying that i am not as good as you, you are better than me, and this elevation is what constitutes a 'good' 'pure' citizen.
You may be better than me at alot of things this does not make you a better person or a better philosopher, these are my troubles which i did not like to spread, but since you asked.
And if you didn't agree then you were still willing to look the other way.

Oh, I agree that we shouldn't silence someone simply on the grounds that we are superior or any of that hatred nonsense. The thing is, I'm not sure that's what the OP was talking about. And even if it was, just so we're clear, it is not what I or most others have been speaking about in here.

I'm not trying to embaress or teach you. I was confused. I didn't know who you thought was saying what you seemed to be defending against. Sometimes people post in incorrect threads. I've done it before.

There are some whom I don't think are here for any philosophical discussion, or a discussion at all, but I wouldn't want them banned or silenced because I might not agree with their posts.

If someone posts something that truely enlightens us or makes us question ourselves we find their opinion to be of worth because it is likely to either become our opinion, reinforce the opinion we already have by forcing us to rethink our opinion, or become incorporated into our opinion as part of a synthesis of currently held opinion and new information.

Please don't derail the topic with your rethorical mastrubation. It's excatly people like you that I abhore.

Yeah see here it is. Just because you don't like me or my posts you want to silence me because you are "better" than me right? What you have to say is more important? How is talking about a topic a derail?

Perhaps you can explain to me what you disagree with?

So to be your sort of philosopher your sort of person is to already know everything you do? or at least to know enough so as not to offend your stomach.
If you think you can go through life only encountering the people you choose to meet, and only learn from those who you think have something valid to contribute then i am sad to say you will become a rather boring person.
If you only want to talk or hear about what you want to talk or hear about you will never learn anything.
If you only see what you want to see, you may as well be blind.

'where they belong' not good enough to be in your presence.

Who do you think you are? asked so as to recieve an answer, not to make a statement.
Are you saying that those who dont share your lofty heights are worth no position at all?

And let me save you an insult, I know am abhorant, but at least i dont think you are.

Why give your thanks if it is only for those whom you think are worthy of them?

So much for this place being a place for growth or for learning if thats the way you want to go.

If I walked into a doctor's office and actually believed my opinion about colon cancer, with no medical experience whatsoever, was to be held to a higher esteem than a medical doctor who has had extensive experience with colon cancer patients, I would be an idiot. My opinion is most certainly not equal to his/her, and for good reason! You sincerely disagree with this? You always think your opinions are better simply because they are yours?

I have opinions about our economy, but I most certainly acknowledge that they aren't as educated or well thought out as some economics majors I'm friends with.

I hope we can learn to be humble here...

I love you, Hex! You are a comic genius. You keep it real, man.

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Indeed. I'm suspicious of any pseudo-neutral standpoint that determines what is drivel and what sublime. Some would toss out metaphysics. Others would toss out humor. Still others would censor parody, experimental foolosophical-poetry. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Let those who can take the heat enjoy a seat near the stove.

I seek to learn, and no man can learn everything by himself, but I learn faster if there no fools with their irrational thinking, to derail a sound topic.

I seek to learn, and no man can learn everything by himself, but I learn faster if there no fools with their irrational thinking, to derail a sound topic.

Can nothing that is posted on a philosophy forum be drivel? What makes philosophy different from other forums? Is it that there are no standards in philosophy? But there are in other disciplines?

Yeah but the doctor wouldn't say, "Hey patient, um, you shouldn't talk because you are an idiot on the topic of medicine alright?" The doctor would actually listen to what they had to say and perhaps even give them something else to chew on mentally. Or the doctor wouldn't snicker and say well you are just too stupid to understand this subject so don't worry yourself on the subject.

There are economists in reports that have degrees, that know that what they are saying is actually nonsense when they want to be deceitful. Does that make them the authority just because they have a degree?

Weird how you keep tossing these bits of neutrality but you are not neutral on this topic.

Many's the time when studying philosophy that a thinker seemed like nonsense only to finally become one of my favorites.

Hmmm. ........................You may have a "heart too soon made glad".

You think no one else is here to learn something? If you get rid of all the "fools", who's going to be around to learn anything?

Many's the time when studying philosophy that a thinker seemed like nonsense only to finally become one of my favorites. In many ways, conflict is good. Some of the fools out there might suggest that we all play the fool at times.

Heaven forbid, Kennethamy, that this could ever be said about you :bigsmile:

Dont worry that is all i am going to say on this thread.
I'm out.