I did read it and making drugs illegal only drives the supply underground it does not reduce the quantity supplied to those who require it.

A gun may protect but the facts are that they kills more than it saves.

Why do you think the US has twenty times more deaths by guns than the UK per head of population.

I did read it and making drugs illegal only drives the supply underground it does not reduce the quantity supplied to those who require it.
A gun may protect but the facts are that they kills more than it saves.
Why do you think the US has twenty times more deaths by guns than the UK per head of population.

Because the UK has borders, there are so few guns around that even criminals can't get one. That is not a possibility in the near future in the US. There gun control only disarms the victims.

I'd love to know how you arrive at that conclusion. If it would be oh soooo easy to get a hold of guns, even the "victims" (whoever they are!) could get them too.

It disarm the ones that follow the law.

Aaah! I see. So we should have insane, mass-homicide provoking laws which centre around the minority lawbreakers as opposed to the overwhelming majority of people who have no intention nor desire to ever kill anyone with a gun or any other means?

Cool, thanks for clearing that up.

I read an article on drugs.If you added all the money spent by law enforcement officers and all the money stolen in the pursuit of buying drugs, we could give every drug addict a million pounds each in treating their addiction.
It is the criminalisation of drugs that is the problem not the addiction that creates the crime.Would you deny a schizophrenic his daily dose or the alcoholic his slug of gin? Why is one sickness a crime while another a treatable illness. Don't make it a product of our consumable capitalist system but a sickness when it is an addiction and herbal remedy when treated with respect.

As for now, an individuals stupidity is absorbed by society. If one chooses to smoke himself stupid and unproductive, that is no longer "self-harm", as us others have pick up the slag and pay for their uselessness.
We don't live in some idealized libertarian society where every person is responsible completely to himself. We live in a society where the cost of your poor decisions are borne by your fellow taxpayers.
Either individual freedom or collectivism, we can't have it both ways.

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The myth that prisons are jammed with people who smoke marijuana is ridiculous.

It is you that lives in a imaginary world where ever sin is punished and every drug dealer has his just deserts.Naive comes to mind when i see your perfect prohibition.When you can admit that humans are weak and punishing weakness is like hissing in the sea, necessary but totally unnoticeable in the larger picture.Those junkies are a burden if drugs are legal or illegal.The point is we decriminalize their necessity so criminals dont peddle their commodity and junkies dont commit crime to feed their addiction.It not some altruistic desire to help the drug addict, it makes economic sense, saves tax payers money and stops their property from being taken.

It does not make economic sense for society to pay for a bunch of peoples uselessness.

Did you read my post?

Shuah buddy. You are saying that prohibition does not work. Which does not matter for it is cheaper to ineffectively try to prevent people from doping themselves up than paying for them being doped up.

Who said we pay them?

Socialism.


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Socialism.

If socialism solved your drug problem and saved you tax payers money would you vote socialist?Your reason to disagree is not fanned by logic but outright prejudice on every subject.I wonder how you express your opinions in real life.

As for now, an individuals stupidity is absorbed by society. If one chooses to smoke himself stupid and unproductive, that is no longer "self-harm", as us others have pick up the slag and pay for their uselessness.
We don't live in some idealized libertarian society where every person is responsible completely to himself. We live in a society where the cost of your poor decisions are borne by your fellow taxpayers.

As for now, an individuals stupidity is absorbed by society. If one chooses to smoke himself stupid and unproductive, that is no longer "self-harm", as us others have pick up the slag and pay for their uselessness.
We don't live in some idealized libertarian society where every person is responsible completely to himself. We live in a society where the cost of your poor decisions are borne by your fellow taxpayers.

Nonsense, plenty of people go out and support themselves and go home and have a smoke at night. As long as they are supporting themselves, no-one else is bearing the responsibility for them, fiscal or otherwise.