Vegetarianism is a Higher level View

@Icon,

Equality is what happens when men pick and choose what qualities are relevant. No two things are ever equal outside of the minds of men.

@savagemonk,

savagemonk wrote:

I am sorry that sounds like a regurgitation of the same thing over and over again. To avoid having to make a point. If you can not justify your truth from all angles than it is flawed. Repeating the original point doesn't prove it it.

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I think it is only you that can't equate All thing, Truth is equal, and truth and I are truly One that Way, One or the same.
I'm not here to prove it, I'm only here to be it, to share.
Truth truly is entirely up to you.
But maybe I can help, I'll keep trying and hope you will too.
I gotta go make a spinach salad for lunch,
Be =, be free,

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MJA

@Mr Fight the Power,

Mr. Fight the Power wrote:

Equality is what happens when men pick and choose what qualities are relevant. No two things are ever equal outside of the minds of men.

Truth outside the minds of men is = to the truth inside the hearts of men,
= is the love of truth.
Object = Subject at the point of Justice,
at the point of infinite truth.
God = One

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MJA

@MJA,

If you have time, MJA, I think Icon has a very good point, and I'd like to hear your response to him.

Thanks,

Z

@MJA,

MJA wrote:

I think we have met at a cross road SM, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that equal is the right Way to go. If you ever need help, feel free to ask, equality is freedom for One as it is All.
If you choose the Right Way, you choose the Just Way, and the Just Way is the equal Way, and the Equal Way is truly One.
A Vegetarian diet is the equitably Right Way to go.
Follow the light,

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MJA

I can halt at that. I appreciate the concern that you show for me. All though I have seen little evidence of truth in my life. It just seems that you feel you are enlightened because you choose not to eat meat. and talk as if you are above the rest of us for not making that choice. That doesn't appear to be an equality to me. And the shear fact that you frivolously use the term enlightenment tells me that it isn't the truth.

I don't remember any Buddhist that was to enlightened to be polite

@savagemonk,

savagemonk wrote:

I can halt at that. I appreciate the concern that you show for me. All though I have seen little evidence of truth in my life. It just seems that you feel you are enlightened because you choose not to eat meat. and talk as if you are above the rest of us for not making that choice. That doesn't appear to be an equality to me. And the shear fact that you frivolously use the term enlightenment tells me that it isn't the truth.

I don't remember any Buddhist that was to enlightened to be polite

My advice to follow the light is polite,
And extend that politeness equally to All things.
Don't eat meat.

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MJA

@Zetherin,

Zetherin wrote:

If you have time, MJA, I think Icon has a very good point, and I'd like to hear your response to him.

Thanks,

Z

After reviewing Icon's post I saw the points of truth as well,
he wrote the = sign many many times.

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MJA

@MJA,

MJA wrote:

After reviewing Icon's post I saw the points of truth as well,
he wrote the = sign many many times.

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MJA

So, the number of "=" present in any post is directly proportional to it's accuracy and truth?

Can you please respond to what he said instead of sidestepping this? :listening:

@Zetherin,

Don't kill animals and eat them, it's a much higher or better way of living.
For the health and goodness of All.
Thanks,

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MJA

@MJA,

MJA wrote:

Don't kill animals and eat them, it's a much higher or better way of living.
For the health and goodness of All.
Thanks,

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MJA

Oh, well that solves it all!

Thanks, MJA!

@Zetherin,

Zetherin wrote:

Oh, well that solves it all!

Thanks, MJA!

I think it was MJA's intent to preach, rather than discuss. This is the first time I have ever been force fed religion through a dietary choice.:brickwall:

@savagemonk,

savagemonk wrote:

I think it was MJA's intent to preach, rather than discuss. This is the first time I have ever been force fed religion through a dietary choice.:brickwall:

The sacrificing of animals was and still is a terribly inhumane flaw of religion, which is a flaw of mankind.
Do you really want to bring religion into a healthy dietary thread?
Do you say a prayer before each meal?
I was taught to, but don't anymore.

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MJA

@MJA,

MJA wrote:

The sacrificing of animals was and still is a terribly inhumane flaw of religion, which is a flaw of mankind.
Do you really want to bring religion into a healthy dietary thread?
Do you say a prayer before each meal?
I was taught to, but don't anymore.

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MJA

I don't prey before any meal. I wasn't brought up in a western type religion. I was raised shaman, with the believe that all life is wonderful and deserves respect. Senselessly killing anything is wrong in my book. I feel that it is your intent behind the actions that are to be judged. In the shaman practice you ask the animal to give life to you by sacrificing it's own. And in return you honor the rest of life. Sooner or later you will die and give life to something else.

It is a cruel circle yes. But if you stop natures way than you do more damage than any good. If everyone was to eat only plant type organisms, then we would run out of that type of food and be crowded by animals. Not to mention that we would deplete the food source for the very animals you are try to save. So rather than shot and eat them you starve them and slowly extinct there existence. That is sadistic to starve something so you can feel good about yourself. Mother nature knows a lot more about life than we do. How bout we just let her do her job and stop messing up her formula.

@MJA,

Indeed, if we stoped eating animals today we wouldnt have anything to do with the thousands of animals we breed for that purpose, and I cannot think of any solution for that problem that wouldnt be cataclismic for the human race or the natural balance of the planet.

@MJA,

I think they bring up an excellent point, MJA.

Have you considered that death isn't as inherently *bad* as you perceive it? That it's just part of a cycle, that death can be beneficial to future life?

@Zetherin,

Zetherin wrote:

I think they bring up an excellent point, MJA.

Have you considered that death isn't as inherently *bad* as you perceive it? That it's just part of a cycle, that death can be beneficial to future life?

Killing is good Z?

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MJA

@MJA,

MJA wrote:

Killing is good Z?

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MJA

Sometimes, yes, MJA.

Is your mind in a fantasy world where the cycle of life is nonexistent? Creatures have been killing creatures for millennium. Now we come along with morality and begin thinking we're just going to start changing the natural course of things? We're not the say all and end all of this earth, my friend. The earth is going to be here long after we're gone, and creatures will still be killing creatures -- it's how it's always been.

Don't eat your meat, fine, but extrapolating that out to "Nothing should die" is taking it a bit too far I think.

@Zetherin,

Pythagoras had a higher level view as well as many others before us.
Check this out:

Pythagoras-Quotes Animal Rights History

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MJA

@MJA,

This raptor didn't agree with his "higher level view":

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vYUv1zQs8jQ/RvPp5DSrozI/AAAAAAAAAio/r6gZSWZVWiI/s400/velociraptor.jpg

Oh, and he was around approximately 167 million years before Pythagoras.

@Zetherin,

Not all of us have evolved beyond your prehistoric flesh eating state, but One day soon I hope you do, for the goodness of all.

"Pythagoras used the greatest Purity, and was shocked at all bloodshed and killing; that he not only abstained from animal food, but never in any way approached butchers or hunters. (Eudoxus, Description of the Earth qtd in Porphyry, Life of Pythagoras, 7)"

Perhaps it is best now that I leave you to your own unpure ways,

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MJA

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