is time infinite?

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MJA
 
Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 11:43 am
@Alan McDougall,
I totally agree!
Thanks,

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MJA
 
Alan McDougall
 
Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2009 11:56 am
@MJA,
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xris
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 08:27 am
@Alan McDougall,
Alan McDougall wrote:
MJA,

The quote Big Bang was made by a physicist named Fred Hoyle who was making a sarcastic ream ark about the concept of a big bang creation

He just thought it was silly nonsense
Yes but he has been proved wrong again and again..are you seriously challenging the BB theory?
 
MJA
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 09:39 am
@xris,
Theories are meant to be challenged,
it is a process that leads to truth.
I have found simplification to be the best Way to go.
It is those who stubornly hang on to only theories and faiths
that will forever remain in the grey cloud of the dark.
Truth is the Light, and it is infinitely time for all of us to move on.

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MJA
 
xris
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 09:41 am
@MJA,
MJA wrote:
Theories are meant to be challenged,
it is a process that leads to truth.
I have found simplification to be the best Way to go.
It is those who stubornly hang on to only theories and faiths
that will forever remain in the grey cloud of the dark.
Truth is the Light, and it is infinitely time for all of us to move on.

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MJA
If you challenge it, i dont mind but be constructive not just say i challenge it and say nought else.
 
MJA
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:06 am
@xris,
xris wrote:
If you challenge it, i dont mind but be constructive not just say i challenge it and say nought else.


Truth is Light is far from "nought else", don't you see or agree?
Truth is the foundation of what is.
And any true thoughts must be constructed on or with it.
Is the big bang true?
If you have any uncertainty or doubt, I suggest you start your construction again.
Its more solid that Way.
Start true, stay true, be true.


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MJA
 
xris
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:18 am
@MJA,
MJA wrote:
Truth is Light is far from "nought else", don't you see or agree?
Truth is the foundation of what is.
And any true thoughts must be constructed on or with it.
Is the big bang true?
If you have any uncertainty or doubt, I suggest you start your construction again.
Its more solid that Way.
Start true, stay true, be true.


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MJA
The Big bang is the accepted theory..i have no doubt..but i am open minded as the truth shall find it out..so give us your thought or i will have no doubts to query..
 
Alan McDougall
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:28 am
@meridius,
XRIS,

No I do not challenge the Big Bang I accept it as the best explanation based on real scientific physical evidence.

I was only quoting Fred Hoyle not agreeing with him
 
xris
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 10:36 am
@Alan McDougall,
Alan McDougall wrote:
XRIS,

No I do not challenge the Big Bang I accept it as the best explanation based on real scientific physical evidence.

I was only quoting Fred Hoyle not agreeing with him
So how do you doubt that time started with the BB.
 
MJA
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 11:11 am
@xris,
xris wrote:
The Big bang is the accepted theory..i have no doubt..but i am open minded as the truth shall find it out..so give us your thought or i will have no doubts to query..


Well I have no doubt about truth, for truth has no doubt; but find the big bang theory full of questions and doubts.
Perhaps if it is true for you as you say, then help me be it true for me too.
For surely truth is universal, is it not?
And speaking of Universal things, and to help me understand your truth,
And as questioning truth as the great Socrates' methodology pointed out is a Way to truth, then I must ask you some questions of your truth that are uncertain for me.
If you please,

Was the BB the beginning of the universe?
Was there a beginning?
Did the BB go Bang?
Are you certain of history?
Of any past?
And if so what is the certainty of our past?
Lets start here, if you will, so as I can understand the BB truth or your truth of universal truth too.

Thanks,

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MJA

PS: and after we do away with any doubts of your truth you will help me with my own.
 
xris
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 11:45 am
@MJA,
If your only interest is what sound it made or asking if it is true how do you ever debate if everything is not possible the truth..It could have been like a deep penetrating low rumble from a mighty hunting horn of the gods..What do you consider to be the truth everything nothing or something?
 
MJA
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 11:48 am
@xris,
Equitable Eternal Infinite Universal Oneness is truly me.


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MJA
 
Fido
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 01:55 pm
@manored,
manored wrote:
Time is not as we know it thought, nor its space: Time in this chunck of reality may have started with the big-bang, but that doesnt means there cant be other forms of time. For example our mind requires time to work, so whatever forms our minds take through the universe there will always be a dimension of time there.

Time is space and space is time... They are incomprhensible except in terms of the other.
 
manored
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 04:20 pm
@MJA,
MJA wrote:
manored wrote:
Its not a matter of past or future, but of logic: a line that starts but never ends is different from one that doesnt starts nor ends Smile
quote]

I have never seen a line that never ends nor one that doesn't start or end, have you?

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MJA
I can imagine both, and thats enough Smile

Whats the difference between a pink flying fire-breathing elephant and a black flying fire-breathing elephant?

Fido wrote:
Time is space and space is time... They are incomprhensible except in terms of the other.
What about information? Information can change over time winhout need of space, or rather, space can be abstracted as information and vice-versa.

MJA if you accept only truth you will have nearly nothing to accept at all Smile we have to keep up some suppositions too, either that are more likely or work for the moment.
 
Alan McDougall
 
Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2009 05:44 pm
@MJA,
Fido

Quote:

So how do you doubt that time started with the BB.




If that post were directed at me, I do not doubt that time began in the big bang It did for our universe.

And maybe in the creation events of other universes
 
MJA
 
Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 11:40 am
@Alan McDougall,
Alan McDougall wrote:
Fido

If that post were directed at me, I do not doubt that time began in the big bang It did for our universe.

And maybe in the creation events of other universes


Man created time to measure the motion of the stars, didn't we?


manored wrote:
[I can imagine both, and thats enough Smile


MJA if you accept only truth you will have nearly nothing to accept at all Smile we have to keep up some suppositions too, either that are more likely or work for the moment.


Truth is nothing?
Truth is infinitely One.
And One is equally you, me and All.

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MJA
 
manored
 
Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 12:07 pm
@MJA,
MJA wrote:

Truth is nothing?
Truth is infinitely One.
And One is equally you, me and All.

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MJA
What you are writing makes no sense at all, something winhout end cannot be accounted as a singularity.
 
Wisdom Seeker
 
Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 04:50 am
@meridius,
eternity,everlasting,ageless is a synonym of timeless
therefore timeless is infinite

if timeless is infinite
then time is finite
it has beginning and has the end,it has duration

if somethings have duration then, time is present on it
if somethings have no duration then, time does not exist

but both time and timeless has past, present and future on it
the only difference is the other is finite and the other is infinite
 
HexHammer
 
Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 04:01 pm
@meridius,
As I don't see it having a defined beginning, nor an end, it must be ..but I don't see it exist at all in itself, it's like a messurement like speed and lenght.
 
sometime sun
 
Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 05:57 pm
@HexHammer,
There will always be the presence of something,
time will always exist.
Time is definite,
not necessarily definitive.
 
 

 
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