Uncle Jim/Solomon

Homosexuality was not always outlawed by Berg. It only became outlawed after the AIDS crisis came to light.

Even so, Lesbian relations are not totally outlawed in TF, although TF really promotes Bi-Sexual relations for women--but not men.

Very true evenman. I remember reading sometime Zerby talking about how she had "love up time" or some such non-sense with some other "sister". Creeeeeeeeepy... Mature dikes...

TF easily promotes male homosexuality. Only because it is banned, shows they are against it. Otherwise one could easily deduct by reading their moral theories that "what ever goes as long as it's in the name of love" make homosexuality is a good thing.

Steven Douglas Kelly "King Peter" said something to the effect of in one of the GNs that the men are beautiful and that he would f00k the men if he was a woman. Can anybody remember where that was?

He is admitting to homosexual attraction.

Berg came to the conclusion that FF'ing could apply to men with other men.

I believe that this was contained in a letter; "Homos". He soon changed his mind (or God did, as he would tell us), when the AIDS crisis hit.

really, if he hasn't hurt anyone or done weird stuff, why be such gossipy ladies as to devote a thread to discuss someone's sexual orientation who almsot everyone on this board (who knows him) will agree is one of the kindest, gentlest people you'll ever meet. really. let's talk about your sexuality, or even mine, eh? that would be more interesting.

Re: sometimes someone might

anonomous wrote:

I know personally of a gay man who, during his time in TF, did actually play with some little boys and also masturbated together with a little boy in secret. I am not generalizing. I cannot. I only know of this one case. It was kept quiet and no repercussions were ever brought out. So it can happen.
Of course, straight men have also done unthinkably horrible abusive stunts with little girls, so abuse is abuse.

I know you mean this in no critical way, but someone else pointed out and it is true that sexual abuse of children by adults (pedophilia) is not heterosexuality or homosexuality. While some pedophiles prefer specific age groups or one sex the other sex or both, the difference is that they are attracted to children. Pedophilia and rape are similar in that they are ILLEGAL and damaging, and they are not about sex but rather about a sense of power and control for someone that is very out of control.
When it comes to adult sexuality if a person is homosexual they are only different similar to the way that a person is different if they are left handed. They are simply a minority and it wasn't that long ago in history that people who were left handed were beaten and forced to write and use their right hand both at home and in school. Even when I went to school there was a teacher who said left handed people would go to hell. He really believed it. My father was beaten in school for being left handed and became right handed which he continued with. It has been found to be damaging to change a person's orientation when it comes to handedness just as it is to change their sexual orientation. A minority of people are gay or lesbian but they catch hell for it. That is unfortunate but FORTUNATELY that is changing. I am glad the subject came up if it helps one person who is gay or lesbian feel better about being who they were born to be. Berg was a man completely out of control and what did he do? He couldn't get it up with women much and was turned on by humiliating people and asserting dominance over them whether men or women and he certainly was a pedophile and a rapist. Evil or Very Mad

I think homosexuality is, at best, unfortunate. You can't produce offspring with that kind of mating. Therefore, theoretically, it is not a beneficial trait to have for your family line. I personally think that hardly anyone is born a homosexual. If so, it is probably caused artificialy via chemicals and generations of psychological illness.

Here's a thought: Those of us who were in TF know how much what we were taught as a child affects who we are. So therefore if you were taught to be a homosexual, wouldn't that seem normal to you?

Think about all the people still in the cult and how "right" they think the are.

I think this transfer works well but doesn't prove much.

Maybe someone can enlighten me why they suspect he was gay besides the fact he was a good dancer, only married once or twice, and is not married now, and doesn't have sex with every girl he sees. maybe he's really, really pickey.

I'm cute/young, but I went for years in TF without sex, becuase all the guys were so frikin' ugly that i lived with during that time. They don't force you to if you don't want to. Maybe i was a Les and didn't even know it. But maybe my friends knew it. Hmmm... one to ponder.

Anyway, big deal if if he was/is gay, right?

Cookie wrote:

Maybe someone can enlighten me why they suspect he was gay besides the fact he was a good dancer, only married once or twice, and is not married now, and doesn't have sex with every girl he sees. maybe he's really, really pickey.

I'm cute/young, but I went for years in TF without sex, becuase all the guys were so frikin' ugly that i lived with during that time. They don't force you to if you don't want to. Maybe i was a Les and didn't even know it. But maybe my friends knew it. Hmmm... one to ponder.

Anyway, big deal if if he was/is gay, right?

Perhaps the guy's found you ugly ?
If you are a lesbian then you should know it by now!

Love & Bless

Max

You're fuuny! Laughing

Cookie wrote:

You're fuuny!

I know, when dealing with you lot you need to look on the bright side of life.
We all need a good sense of humor. The Bible says, â€œA merry heart does good, like medicineâ€

max wrote:

We all need a good sense of humor. The Bible says, â€œA merry heart does good, like medicineâ€

Cookie wrote:

max wrote:
We all need a good sense of humor. The Bible says, â€œA merry heart does good, like medicineâ€

What's your company called, Max? Then I can look it up.

evanman wrote:

What's your company called, Max? Then I can look it up.

Evanman
It would be irresponsible for me to declare on a public forum any interestâ€™s that I have in any companies.
I thank you for your interest though.
Have you seen any photo's of Nazi's on this forum?

Love & God Bless

Max

What are you afraid of Max? I think, and correct me Evenman if i'm wrong, but his point is that when you make a claim to fame, you've gotta be able to back it up.

I own half of Microsoft, by the way. Laughing

Cookie wrote:

What are you afraid of Max? I think, and correct me Evenman if i'm wrong, but his point is that when you make a claim to fame, you've gotta be able to back it up.

I own half of Microsoft, by the way.

I repeat yet again, it would not be irresponsible, something that you should try hard to understand.
I really do think that more JJT is or was in order!
Try to remember that if you backslideâ€

max wrote:

I really do think that more JJT is or was in order!

Max, I've seen you say this to Cookie at least 3 times now. What on earth are you trying to imply by it? That you think she grew up in dirty Family homes and that you wish she hadn't? I can assure you that practically all SGA's have been involved in their share of Jesus Job Time.

Also note that these kinds of statements, together with many other factors, make it quite obvious that you are or were a Family member, rather than someone who is merely interested in and supports the group, as you've claimed numerous times. I find it very hard to believe that a sheep or king would tell a complete stranger that they should do more JJT as some sort of bizarre put-down.

Here, here!

PTLTYJWLYSMGBYAKYIJN, Amen!

Cheers, Monger. Laughing

You could pm me, Max.

Monger wrote:

max wrote:
I really do think that more JJT is or was in order!

Max, I've seen you say this to Cookie at least 3 times now. What on earth are you trying to imply by it? That you think she grew up in dirty Family homes and that you wish she hadn't? I can assure you that practically all SGA's have been involved in their share of Jesus Job Time.

Also note that these kinds of statements, together with many other factors, make it quite obvious that you are or were a Family member, rather than someone who is merely interested in and supports the group, as you've claimed numerous times. I find it very hard to believe that a sheep or king would tell a complete stranger that they should do more JJT as some sort of bizarre put-down.

If you keep asking the same questions then you will get the same answers.
As I keep saying.
You had obviously not noticed.
You see but you do not observe.
Refer to my previous statements with respect to that quote.
Grow up or shut up !

Love & God Bless

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