@Krumple,
Krumple;136205 wrote:There is a lot of slaughter done by god in the bible. Do I have to point out all the occasions?
Point away.
Please do.
Krumple;136205 wrote:
You can't tell me these were all done by people alone. They couldn't have been. Unless you are justifying it since god views humanity like pests that he can exterminate when they are grossing him out.
Is this an admitance of the reality of God on your part, that something other than we are responsible for what goes on in this universe, on the planet, between people, interest in each and every and all worlds that are and ever could be, even your own world holds God and if not present once was that which influenced it?
God has never seen us as pests, God has never fully understood why we are apart from the fact and impulse that God knows It needs us.
Krumple;136205 wrote:
Anymore? So he learned something? I guess that disqualifies him for all knowing. If you have to under go birth and death before you realize just how messed up it is to kill off thousands with a sweep of the hand.
God has learned.
God has evolved.
(can something evolve if it is not in full possession of the reality of even more than just self, more than place? In possession of the full story so as to be able to write the next unwritten chapter?)
God is still leanring but knows now enough to fill and filled.
Again are you sure you dont have some faith that God exists beyond just our own abuses of the whole God 'concept'?
It was not just birth and death He underwent, he underwent childhood.
Nature would not be nature if God had to leave it alone.
If God should tamper with nature it would no longer be natural.
War is man made.
OT God has killed with the sweep of the hand, God was wise in the ways man understood.
You must remember we were not as we were back then.
We have invented many new emotions, feelings, meanings, philosophies.
I dont think the message of Christ has hit you yet, it was not just planetary it was biblical.
Think about that word for a momnet please BIBLICAL.
You dont want me to tell you all the new worlds and words and relations to those words that was created and containe din the power that is the bible.
Shakespear is credited for alot of new words and relations to them and inevitably ourselves through this medium.
To hear is also worlds away from the written. Thus spake. Sermon on the mount.
Point trying to be made, we learned in different way to how we do now.
This sweep of the hand was all God knew because this was all we knew or had proved to Him.
And then Christ, you could easily credit Him as 'The Very First Man', he showed us how to be. How it was done.
We prove all to God, God jsut shows us what we cant yet see we are doing.
Happily or saddly, we will only be as good as the God that leads us.
We cannot take responsibility for our selves.
We need to be led.
We are afris of our selves
Just as we are afriad we have no one to blame but ourselves.
We need to witness God doing it before we can trust ourselves.
We need to witness God before we can bare ourselves.
Nothing can be our own idea.
(even if we are what proves God)
We may be doing something we will never recognise before God rewards us for it.
For God is what proves us.
Enough, went off on one there.
Krumple;136205 wrote:
The closer the better. I don't have any problem with that.
'Hello........... is it me your looking for?'
Krumple;136205 wrote:
Once again, I don't need to apologize to anyone, not even my self. I haven't done anything wrong, at all.
Good for you, Good for the rest of us.
Krumple;136205 wrote:
No one does, everyone is a victim of ignorance. It is because we do not know that we do things that cause harm. You can not punish a person for that. If you punish a person for that it is unjust punishment. Therefore absolutely no one deserves punishment.
Then some victims need to be punished.
Who knows maybe one day we will evolve out of this???????????????
Maybe we have more to teach God?
But maybe God already knows this and is just waiting for us to catch up?
Some people need to punish themselves.
Some people need to be punished.
You earn punishment.
Krumple;136205 wrote:
Yeah tell this to the children starving in the world.
If you have God, you have something.
Some might say more than food.
I would enough is just enough.
Enough is enough.
(I wonder why people are now afriad to teach their children they are not alone in the universe? I wonder if not knowing this might make the hunger seem just that little bit less, as your body consumes itself you are safe in the knowledge (for it can only be taught) 'I am not alone in this'???)