Another view is that the ideal does not and cannot exist, and to pursue it is one of the origins of totalitarianism. Pursuit of the ideal means neglect of the actual. The reality is the actual situation we have to deal with, and is often neglected or misinterpreted in our pursuit of the ideal.
Krishnamurti: Commentaries on Living, Second Series, Page 19.
Exactly. And this is why it is important to distinguish
between the ideal and the real. To show that man is the collision of the discrete and the continuous. And to show this is easy, if one cares to look.
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Digital transmission is more accurate, but not because the signal doesn't degrade as much as an analog one, but because it's so easy to reform the signal at the destination. It's the magic of encoding.
Exactly. Digital is not sensuous. It's made of pure concept. It's just that we have to convert it into electricity, etc. in order to send it. The digital is of a different nature altogether than the analog. For me, the beauty and clarity of digital concept is ideal sculpture, the most perfect sculpture. For whatever reason, not many notice or care. Platonic Form exist, I say. And it's not boring.
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Only if you care to measure the position and the momentum simultaneously. If you care not about momentum, then, in theory, you could have approaching infinite indeterminacy in momentum to find a pretty darn precise position.
Ah, but approaching infinite is not good enough, in my opinion. Because much of my point is that we can imagine impossible precision. But only spatially. When it comes to adding number to this, we see the contradiction. It would take an infinitely long number to measure infinite precision.
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When a man buys anything, feeling ripped off or making a steal, he likes what he has gained. But an artist... when is an artist ever satisfied with his gains?
I don't know. I sometimes think he is. But I guess he goes back for more, because he likes the first gain so much. Maybe you're right, then.
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Perhaps this is because they exist in different realities, realities we have created for then. Ever law a computer and a chess game follows were created by humans, and therefore they dont follow any laws that humans cannot comprehend. For example, a computer can never draw a perfect circle, but he can draw one as perfect as possible.
Yes, that's just it. Spatial precision is one thing, and numerical precision is another. Our intuition of space is of a different nature than our intuition of pure number. This hit me a few months ago, and that's when I got obsessed with math.
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Well, computers arent very happy about such numbers either. A computer cant draw a perfect circle exactly because it cannot calculate Pi fully, since its an infinite number =)
And this issue of pi was specifically what made me realize the collision of the continuous and the discrete. Do you know about the number e? It's as fascinating as pi, maybe even more so. Pi is a sort of eternal number, because the circle is a good symbol for eternity. But e is the symbol of growth and decay....or time. My avatar equals -1. If we want to get all poetic we could say that Time to the Power of Imaginary Eternity equals Negative One.