Alan McDougall;84645 wrote:
Without the resurrection there would be no Christianity, If the resurrection did not happen then the religion we call Christianity would have remained a tiny offshoot of Judaism.
Which, quite ironically, supports the more likely scenario, namely that even though
the resurrection event more likely resulted in misinformation leading to exaggerated reporting, leading, in turn, to embellished story telling, Christianity as we have it today (not necessarily what it had been in the mid first century C.E.) happened. That's because that's just the way religious belief-system oral tradition develops into system supporting tenet.
, I'd like to make a little 'out of outline
' presentation to show a earlier Jewish presentation which seems to very much be a forerunner to a concept that Pathfinder entertains. (whether he got that from here, or not, I have no idea, though) This is here (rather on other threads such as Consciousness is a Biological Problem
[e.g. #362 (see last sentence)
; cf. #531 (note second paragraph)
, and Thought and Self-Awareness #1 (note esp. paragraphs 3rd~6th from bottom)
) to maintain 'on topicness
' to a better degree.
At Genesis 2:7
we find the following:
[indent]wa-iezar YHWH elohiym eth'ha-adham aphar min-ha-dhamah wa-yipah be'apaiyah nishimath khayam wai'hay' ha-adham li-nephesh khaiy':
(bold & transliteration style basically mine)[/indent]
Here, the NRSV (with Apocrypha; Oxford Press) renders this as:
[indent]then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being.
(bold mine to match the Hebrew bold respectively, above)[/indent]
The ASV (the American translation + retake on the KJV (1901)) translates this as:
[indent]And Je-ho'vah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
(bold as per just above rendering)[/indent]
We will find that the LXX gives us psykhen zosan
for 'nephesh khaiy'
' (and please do note here, that the li-
which prefixes that is the preposition 'to,' or 'into') and the Vugate gives us 'animam viventem
The Hebrew word 'nephesh
' is usually rendered 'soul
' in English versions and translations, but in some contexts, more modern versions tend to want not to use that in order to distinguish a H. sapien from a non-H. sapien--the Hebrew allows no such distinction
. One important concept in the earlier Jewish system's nephesh
was that the nephesh
can be destroyed...it dies and that's the end of it. A careful look over the details and flow of Gen 3:19; 6:17; 7:21, 22; Lev 21:1, 11; Josh 2:13, 14; 10:28, 30, 32, 35, 37, 40; 11:11; Ps 89:48; 103:15,16; 146:2~4; Ecc 9:5, 10; Isa 38:17~19; etc., will make that plain enough.
What is being expressed, is that YHWH formed all souls--animal forms including human--(see Gen 1:20, 21, 24, 30 [nephesh khaiy'
used here]; 2:19) from earth (as in soil/dirt), breathed the 'force of life
'] into them, and at that point, they had become living souls--otherwise, without that 'force of life' they were simply non-living, thus dead souls, which turn back into soil material. Therefore according to that view, the 'spark of life
' (if one so wishes to use that style) would be ruach
, which is like wind, or motion of air, sometimes signifying vivacity, or vigor, in a number of places used as a symbol of ones life as an intelligent creature in opposition to non-humans. The Greek rendering is pneuma
, and the Latin spiritus