Of course many great or powerful human figures or mythical heroes were fathered by gods or goddesses and born of a virgin. It is all over mythical Greek folklore and many famous figures in Jesus's time including the Ceasars were gods in the flesh and born of virgins. It is a code for this is an extraordinary person who must be related to the Gods.

all depends on whats a god?

We'r discussing the christian god and the trinity?

I though so, just more than one take on a teaching, no?

formal teaching only?

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isn't that a different trinity?

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opps meant to say a different kind of trinity?

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not so much good but positive polarity

I was thinking electical +tve/ -tve rather than good/evil take on the trinity

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What Odd...I watch the News on TVE at 11.
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thats even odder :perplexed:
did google:detective: link didn't work:shocked:

Dear froach;

Now I still don't know the Magic of the Holy Trinity. First who, or what, is holy ? If all 3 are holy, an oak could be holy to. How do Trinities reproduce ?

What I would like to know, who of the tree is the Oldest ? It can not be Jezus, because he is the human son of the Holy Father. We have heard of King talking to spirits before, but is this the same entity as the Holy Spirit ?
Magic?
Every sunday in church ..
. Boring story.

Hope your well surrounded by faith Catholics or other Good People,

PepI ud Ox
Magister +/_ {:sarcastic:0}*

What about Mother Maria ?

I just thought of Her.

Could we replace this vague, non-scientific concept of spirit with a real living woman ? A Feminist believe, stimulating equality and equal rights ? And duties !

After-though for Fraoh, Cheers

I had a thought the other day that worried me for awhile.

I was thinking about there being anything new or not,and I thought that the human soul seemed new, each new birth being a new soul. As I thought of this it seemed right, so I went to my mentor for help. I have long followed Solomon, for he is said to have been given all the wisdom and understanding available to man. He has said there is nothing new under the sun, I thought that if I had found something new[ the soul] I had surely surpassed the master. This could not be true, so I rethought the matter.

The trinity came to mind and I thought of how this works. The soul is part of the Holy spirit, the Holy spirit ,the soul. Already it has existed, before time, and is not new to this world.
So ,all is well, there is nothing new under the sun, the student is in his place and has maybe learned a thing or two.

Egyptian believed in an immortal, divine soul & a human soul, atteched to the body.

Ibiza Rock's ! Radio

I was only joking. I noticed how you get on these little kicks of yours. The most recent is this trinity and triangle thing you keep thinking you are seeing. Convincing yourself that it is present everywhere.

I notice a few times on several occasions that when I would check the time that it would be would be a triple digit occurrence. So I would make a little ritual out of catching the time when it happened that way. It is stupid but it has a good meaning behind it. People only want to notice when something is the way, in which they want it to be. Your little trinity thing is that way because you WANT to see it in those terms. I can point out on several explanations of yours that you are leaving out other aspects. Instead I went with the bottle of alcohol joke as to sober you up.

I am well aware that I have my own superstitions. It is difficult to break them because they are ingrained into our behaviors and culture. One of my favorites to sight is Murphys law. I know it is absolute nonsense but it still creeps up into every day experience. I can't help but play it's little game though. In fact in some cases it makes for amazing time wasting.

The human imagination is the only theory behind a bad theory. People want to believe in things because that is what the imagination does best. We fill ourselves with fiction on a daily basis yet we somehow can make the distinction between what is real and what is not, in some cases. When you are watching a movie, it can have and impact on you emotionally, yet you know it is not real. I feel that religious spirituality is just another one of these things we mistake for substantial when it is just an illusion causing an emotional response similar to a movie.

I'm sorry that that's the way you perceive me. If I were to play that same game, I could. Couldn't you be accused of playing a sort of bitter masochistic role ? As in you don't want to find structure or meaning, because meaninglessness is the structure you prefer? The triangle is just a pretty shape that symbolizes a philosophical point. On the other hand, trigonometric functions are indeed all over the place. Sine ways, the basic constituent of sound. I know you know some science, so certainly you are aware that our environment is structured. And surely you know that geometry has been extremely useful. So what gives? I don't see how you can accuse me of presenting some false god, just because I'm enthusiastic about the structure we humans can find/create.....

And it amuses me to find a workable interpretation of the trinity. Of course it has zero supernatural meaning for me, as I have already repeated that for me only man is god, and that both "god" and "man" are just abstractions, concepts, forms.

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I see what you mean, and there is some truth in that. But let's apply that statement against itself. You think I only see what I WANT to see, because you WANT to see things like that. This presents your own cynicism as a self-indulgence. And why should a happy human being making conversation on a forum need sobering up? Am I really the problem? All I want is free time to study, walk in the sun, hug my little wife. I'm no saint, but then I don't ask much. And I also have little need for alcohol. I will confess an addiction to coffee.

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Sure, I agree with much of this. But how do we distinguish? Is unbiased thought even possible?

I won't even deny that feeling is the justification of logic. And math. At the root level, we have certain intuitional responses to certain forms. A = A is an intuition. We don't prove it because we don't need to. And the happy man who relates his happiness to a form simply shares that form, and lets the form do what it can to make his friend happy. I'll be the first to admit that there is no ideal proof.
We bow to science because it accomplishes "miracles." It allows us to fly, to talk to people on the other side of the Earth. For someone who doesn't conceive of "Nature" (a sublime abstraction) as structured both temporally and spatially, both of these feats would be indistinguishable from miracles.

95 percent if not more do not know how their technology works, not beyond the most rudimentary level. So they mumble the word science. And yet they get the essence, that this is not miracle but ingenuity working upon the obscure structure of that which is. Still, is not this obscure structure amazing? strange ? terrible? Beautiful? Spinoza could see it as God. Call it what you will. Life is passing strange, and yet sometimes boring somehow....