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Hmm... good question. Maybe you could elaborate a little on the question. Yes, maybe and elaboration on which suffering would be helpful. Do you have an example?
It would depend on which knowledge and where the desire is coming from.
Im impressed by your knowledge of Buddhism and the other things you have mentioned, I too am fascinated by 'religions' and beliefs, espeacially the origins and differences between them. The aquiring and application of this knowledge was called (when I was a priest) Ministry of the 'cults' as it was classified.
However I never came across Buddhists and the like (new age, yes I have) and only have a rudimentry understand.
I would say their are many types of knowledge. For example; dialectics, logic, 'gosip'(useless chinesse whispers) which people seek, 'facts' that are useless (just general knowledge at best), and Aquired knowledge about things that is really just one view of it or speculation. This is just of the top of my head, I cant see how as one they would fit the same catagorization, can you help.
Desire is a wonderfully strange phanominon, do animals have desires other than instinctive (mating, eating, drinking, hybination, nurturing its young). Humans are not as adapted to its environment as animals (if there is a difference). We wouldnt even know what is good for us to eat if a bloke in a white coat from university didnt tell us. We alter our world and create something completly different from what the environment provides. Our desires are not natural; sexual appitites for example, and desire for material possesions, and the desire for all things that harm us. Would I be correct in saying that we are just 'filling' a gap and not desiring the very thing we need?
Does everybody have the same needs for fullfilment? Some people are happy with simple things, like a good book or a family to go home to, a dose of success always goes down a treat. In my experiance ive been called mad, weird and unballanced because I said something along the lines of 'theres more to life than what we see' or 'dont you yern for fullfilment' ect. I tend to put these people down as 'a bit thick' (I know thats completly wrong, but anyway).
In my experiance as a Christian, it is incredibly hard to deal with situations where people are openly mocking you (even your friends!) and to deal with all the absolutly ridiculous comments made that even a non believer would know was stupid. One example is ''If God made the world, then he made all the evil, then so he must be evil aswell, like a rapist or a pedophial?'':confused: So I would say it is not natural to be able to block out all the theories, arguements, debates, hypothesis, differences and problems. This is because the world garrenties two things about people; they're going to be individual and with their own theories ect.
Is this to asume that whatever we do is predestined and no action taken will result in a 'new path' not worked out by the divine? so what then If you or I just sit down and not do anything at all, wont this effect the 'great plan' envisaged?
Or is this also accounted for in the 'great plan'? Fatalism and predestination, if this is what you mean is very problematic, obviously, but may I add Christiananity is inclind towards this, as it makes out that God knows the end result already no matter what choices we take in human history. Yet choice is always given to people nevertheless.
Without reading for years to catchup with the basics of what you (ELECTRA) know of the subject, could you give me a sum up of the reasons and method that has concluded that choice and freewill are nonexistant, and our purpose is to 'be a tool'.
Hopfully this will give me better understanding of this topic, and may even help you think through what you are studying to help you make that desision you talk about.
Electra,
Forgive my intrusion, but you mentioned geomancy. Could you start a post on this topic, I am at present privately researching earth fields, guided by the concepts developed by Walter Russell.
Presently my focus is the comprehending the nature of "Diamagnetic-Radiative-Female energies, and the "Paramagnetic-Generative-Male energies" of nature. As time progresses I hope to develop easy to follow, step by step instructions for experiments which I can post here in the future.
Please share your insights, and reveal your thoughts, and opinions, with all who would know more of geomancy. I welcome what you have to share, as I feel it will be a great addition to my ongoing search of truth and light,
Once again please forgive the intrusion.
Does the world really need more THINKERS and DO-ERS? Is what the world really needs is more silence and harmony. Can the two live together in one body? Is it an either or proposition????