I cant imagien a universe without challenges, in the sense of person ones, such as survival. It would make life quite meaningless.

Instead of the word "conflict" , perhaps use "challenge".

That way we know know that when we overcome a challenge, we have bettered ourselves in some way.

I guess challenges to humanity is like the hammer for the sword, it makes us sharp and tough.

I cant imagien a universe without challenges, in the sense of person ones, such as survival. It would make life quite meaningless.

Yeah, this is how I feel about an after life. With no challenge that existence would also be meaningless. It is this life that we have, with its challenges, it's finite opportunities that make it have value.

If you have everything you ever want or desire for ever it would cheapen those things very quickly.

Hi all,

The following fragment is attributed to Heraclitus:

It is necessary to know that conflict is universal and that strife is right, and all things happen through strife and necessity.

This statement echos the play between the Yin and Yang of Daoism, which creates Qi (energy) and the thesis, antithesis of Hegel which creates the synthesis (movement).

I came to a similar conclusion many years ago. That movement (i.e. evolution) is created by conflict and tension between minds (Yi in Chinese metaphysics). For without conflict, everything is without movement and without life.

So, with that said, do you believe that conflict is intrinsic to the universe and to life? If so, how do you deal with it? If not, how do think the universe would be without conflict of any sort?

Thanks.

Rich

It is only chaotic by our current method of thinking (linear), because it defies our current method of thinking. This is why the Intellect may be initially resistant to it--the Intellect resists that which it cannot grasp.

So, with that said, do you believe that conflict is intrinsic to the universe and to life? If so, how do you deal with it?

Thanks.

Rich

However, one might actually pursue the investigation of "the conflict of the conflict" and end up getting Knighted, Like Bertrand Russell. After all, a Theory of Types is a good way to use gibberish to ones popularity!
j.c.

Conflict is intrinsic to life. Harmony is intrinsic to existence.

Conflict is intrinsic to life as debates are seemingly irresolvable. This is a modern problem in philosophy as there has been no widely accepted solution to resolve debates without begging the question on one side or both in a debate. Because of this seeming irresolvability people are left with differing knowledge and no way to resolve conflicts with other knowledge in a logical fashion (accept maybe to undergo an admission of unknowing but that leaves them with less knowledge instead of gained knowledge).

Hi all,
The following fragment is attributed to Heraclitus:
It is necessary to know that conflict is universal and that strife is right, and all things happen through strife and necessity.
Rich

Instead of the word "conflict" , perhaps use "challenge". That way we know know that when we overcome a challenge, we have bettered ourselves in some way.

Conflict is intrinsic to life. Harmony is intrinsic to existence.

I think words like conflict, change, struggle-for-dominance, will-to-power, all adequately describe the basic character of reality. Inequalties of power develop amoung systems, and are expressed by movement, 'war.' And then a new equilibrium is imposed by the 'victor,' for a while: i.e. until the next inequality develops. A more concrete example of this is entropy versus complexity.

Jack,
But, realize that any terms which could be applied to reality, or to anything else, i.e. any term or concept which has any meaning to we humans, is anthropogenic: i.e. founded in experience and familiar life..

Complexity, entropy, neutrality are less obviously so because they are more abstract, but they are abstractions from our own experiences: otherwise, they would not mean anything to us at all.