I agree with you. That life is a thing to be lived amongst ourselves. I feel like maybe you misunderstood me, like you thought I was saying death is the ultimate goal. But what I was saying is that life shouldn't be questioned in life because we will find the answer in death. Thus leaving more time to live, to witness, to be witnessed, to do good.

The problem is that we do die. Our brains do stop thinking. And we can't help but worry about death. And realizing that death is just the answer to life will put us at peace, and allow us to live uninhibited.

Death waits but we have to make life happen if we hope to have the end we want. When you are young it looks like a pile of different jig saw puzzles strewn all over the place. Making sense of it, finding the meaning in it is just something you have to work at. Kids very often piss life away without any sense of what it takes to make and raise kids. Go to a hospital or nursing home and ask them, or yourself why they are hanging on. The lives the old live never seem to have meaning when viewed from the perspective of youth. Each age has its own meaning. Don't look for death because you fear it. Don't run from death because you fear it. Facing life is the same as facing death. Every improvement in the situation faced by mankind is a defeat for death. Celebrate life first, and then get to work deserving it. Death must be easy because everyone can manage it. A life that is worthy, mythic, or heroic must be carved out of granite. Live that life and be great.

You're right.

"We only have one form of infinity as people, and it is immortality, and all we can do to have that is to tap into existence in the form of other people."

I agree with that, but this article best explains what I was trying to talk about with my limited vocabulary and poor communication skills: Buddhism and Death

I realize I probably should not have even brought up death in a thread about life.. sorry about that.

Excellent contribution to the conversation, Paxton. As for the portion on the brain ceasing to operate, this would not conclude your demise; people in a coma are alive; their body has a conscious separate from their mental conscious. Both conscious constituents are tied together and can communicate, however the body will survive without the mind, because of the potential to come out of comatose. Unfortunately, they don't always wake up.

As for the purpose and effects of purpose, I totally agree. Believe what you want, but don't hurt anyone in the process. This is a direct attack on the effects of the Muslim religion, (and I don't even need to decapitate anybody to get the point across) their religion has divided, blinded, zombified, and killed thousands of people. I just heard on the news that a school was on fire in Saudi Arabia, and they would not allow the female children to leave or even to be rescued because they were not wearing proper Muslim attire. That is inhumane, morally wrong, and F-in retarded. They are also about to decapitate a woman because she was accused of being a witch. I am currently in Afghanistan, and I have seen the volatile, hate bred, ignorant and mindless violent nature that this ideology drives these people to bear. I have had friends die by the hand of their evil ideology, and I myself have even caught high velocity lead with my elbow. My point is, there is a better way, and we should pursue a better life style that will benefit all mankind.

This is a direct attack on the effects of the Muslim religion, (and I don't even need to decapitate anybody to get the point across) their religion has divided, blinded, zombified, and killed thousands of people.

however, the ideology is what propetuates the violent debaucheries commited by them.

I'd like to start a thread asking members to open metaphysic related discussions.

Metaphysics (Greek words μετα [meta] = after/beyond and Φυσις [phusis] = nature) is a branch of philosophy concerned with giving a general and fundamental account of the way the world is. Metaphysics is thus like the sciences in that it tries to describe the world, but it differs from these disciplines in its scope and fundamentality. Whereas the biologist is concerned with the nature of organisms and the physicist with the nature of bodies, the metaphysician is concerned with the nature of all reality. A central branch of metaphysics is ontology, the investigation into what categories of things are in the world and what relations these things bear to one another. The metaphysician also attempts to clarify the notions that figure fundamentally in our understanding of the world; these notions include existence, objecthood, property, space, time, causality, and possibility.

'Life' appears to encompass everything in existence - atoms display signs of life as does a star; they both move of their own accord and require energy in doing so.

I'd say that 'life' is simply a series of deviations, deviant from a state of rest, and relative to the capacity and capability of x object is a deviation from what it once was to what it is now.

If this is true then wouldn't all of 'life' that which is known and unknown be in a constant state of becoming?