Here in the United States, sentencing someone to the death penalty is more expensive than locking them up for life, so there are no real good arguments for offing
In eleventh century England you had a one in three chance of being murdered but they hanged people for stealing a sheep or you got burnt if you cussed god
How can the death sentence be more expensive than sheltering someone for almost a life time in prison?,
I would be eternally gratified if you didn't make ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims about somthing you clearly know very little about.
Because in the US at least, due to all the appeals, the complex legilistation and beuracracy, the high tech nature of the methods used to do the executiona and the ridiculous length of time people spend on death row.
In my opinion, we should only have the death penalty if we are willing to have it publiclly witnessed. If you aren't willing to see it done, you have no real right to demand that it happens.
Yes why not have a burger bar ,put your hanky in the blood for a souvenir.Put it on the telly, prime time telly with adverts for funeral services..Have you lost your sense of reason? Then you do come from a long line of support for public executions, blaspheme... .Pile the wood high , higher much higher.
I think what avatar was saying is that a death penalty is easy to throw around and accept when you have no relation to it. Its why alot of people disagree with bombing type warfare. It kills more people, but also dehumanizes the act.
If people actually were involved in the process, they would understand what it means. Atleast in a reality type sense.
I know enough to make these claims, can you deny them with proof?
You are claiming a statistic which even you know is made up, and I have no idea why you thought it would aid your point. Quite aside from that as it is you who is making claims, then the onus of proof is upon you.
You are claiming a statistic which even you know is made up, and I have no idea why you thought it would aid your point.
This is an ongoing subject but in my country of South Africa where the death penalty's been abolished from law crime is now rampant and risen to unimaginable heights
South Africa my country has discontinued with capital punishment against the wishes of the majority and crime has worsened unimaginably. I believe only Colombia has worse crime statistics
But the question remains Is it moral to murder the murderers
The Pros and Cons of Capital Punishment
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This is a good forum, or one very coincidentally aligned with my preoccupations. Where have you been all my life?
Capital punishment, be it moral, immoral or amoral, is responsible, in theory at least: those that enable execution take responsibility for the life or death of a convicted criminal. Also, it is a human system and thus fallible. Thus an innocent person in a society having capital punishment may be killed and the responsible parties are responsible for that death. I would not call this legalised murder, but it is legalised manslaughter. Some may write this off as collateral damage, but to what end? An impossible-to-realise Utopia or the satisfaction of violent vengeful urges?
One need not assign moral value to state executions unless one can show that they are required in some way: only then does this become a question of the lesser of two evils. Capital punishment has been an important issue for as long as I can remember, and I have always considered and reconsidered the issue and my stance on it, and never have I heard of realised the justification for its requirement. I think this is because people either start from the point of view of it being right or wrong, never of whether it is necessary.
For instance, the banning of capital punishment in South Africa appears to have some correlation with increased crime, but one must have some idea of what this correlation is before one could sanction its reinstatement, or else you're sponsoring execution 'just in case'. Why doesn't life imprisonment do the same trick? Both are strong incentives to obey the law.
Statistics are never a good reason..would you hang a man for stealing a sheep if it stops men stealing sheep ??
Not I. But would I hang a man for murdering innocents if it stopped murderers murdering innocents..? Depends. Would I hang a murderer if it stopped murders and were the only way to stop murders..? Perhaps.
But this is irrelevant. If you ask whether we should have capital punishment, all you get is an influx of personal opinions. If you ask whether it is necessary to have capital punishment to achieve X, then we can do some analysis.