It seems whenever I point something out that someone doesn't like on this forum, it is considered an attack. I am not belittling or attacking you sometime, and I don't know why you think this.

The word salad we are seeing here is getting to be rather annoying, don't you think?

Who owns your soul?

I think over the last ten pages you've noted that the soul is just about everything.

If I may ask, sometime sun, where are you looking to go with this thread?

No one, because I don't have a soul.

Thanks and full stop

I think it's better to include smileys in my writings from now on, that way people have less of a chance of taking offense. Look how amicable I appear now!

Who owns your soul?

You do of course, it is yours until you die.
Of course, the more basic question, is what is a soul? or is there such a thing as a soul?
It is hard to "own" something which is not described and may not exist.

Can you own a non existent?

The ownership I speak of is merely perceived possessiveness. Arguably, whatever you think you "possess" is an artificial construct based on this instinctive origin -- to have perceived relative control over our immediate surroundings. Maternal and paternal instinct to me seems to, generally, gravitate to the notion we hold a special possession of another, our offspring. Surely you must agree there is some degree of possession involved? This is not to say we treat children as chattel but we feel somehow obligated to respond to their needs and, sometimes, wants. It is our perceived problem. We have relative control over their behaviour and survival. Other species reflect this.

Ownership is just who has control over something; another being can have relative "ownership" over you. Sadly you are not as free as you might first hoped.

Regards,

Minimal.

Can you own a non existent?

But dreams do not equal reality, as dreams are imaginary, and reality is not.

So, once again, if everything is a dream, how do we distinguish what is real, from what is imaginary?

No. If you stick around long enough, you will realize that faith is not belief with justification. Perhaps I'll help express this to you in another thread.

Souls don't exist.

How do you, can you own your value?

Try to answer this one for yourself. What do you think?

Can you own something that is non-existent?

Have you been trying all along to ask the question whether you and your soul are the same entity, or whether on the other hand you and your soul are distinct entities, having some kind of relationship other than the relationship of simple logical identity? I'd say the latter.

Are you here saying that the soul is illogical?

No, not at all.

I tend to think of my soul as a small illuminated patch of something that is immortal. When the light goes out, what it illuminates will still be there. Other small patches of light overlap mine. It moves around, sometimes picking out this, sometimes picking out that. What is illuminated is never seen very clearly (not by me, at any rate), but it is there (probably). But no other little patch of light will ever illuminate exactly the same things as mine, which is why death is a real loss, and really to be feared and grieved over. Hear endeth the lesson, blah blah, yada yada la scala.

I believe we (as in a living body) are the soul. Everything that breathes has a soul once it dies the soul i.e the living thing, extinguishes. Like an energy that starts decreasing until it ceases to exist. Like a candle that burns out.

The only problem I have with this is, why call it a soul then? Why not just say there is life and when the functioning that supports life ceases to be, the organism dies? Why slap another word onto it which makes it even more confusing?

That's a good question. The soul is life. But, since I wanted to give my view on what the 'soul' is if I don't use the word 'soul' in there then what purpose will my words have?

Okay fair enough, so for you life and soul are interchangeable? So all things living have or are souls? Plants, microorganisms, animals, ect all have or are souls?

Yes if we define soul as biology.

Well it just seems a little strange to even bring up the word soul then. Why not just stick with biology or life then? Because if you say soul then people might confuse that with either their own interpretation or some other invested concept. However if you just stick with biology or life then these words are much more understandable.

It just seems like adding on extra baggage that is unnecessary.