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Sublime is sublimation?
Apparent is transparent?
Reflection is deflection?
Preserved is reserved?
Awww, that's very nice you learned through Dr. Seuss.
I agree with the last statement that what we call truth is always open to interpretation and meaning because since we are all subjects in this world truth can only be subjective. Who is the say the psychotic's truth is false? To me their truth is closer to the Real 'truth' we call.
Not so... The truth in regard to physical reality is anything but subjective... Even moral reality requires a sense of objective truth because spiritually, and morally, we need it... Our need of truth is the proof we have, slight though it is, that we such a moral quality... Truth has a subjective quality that is not its only or primary quality...
But your truth could be my false. How would you explain that?
If psychic truth was not subjective then we would either all be ill or all sane. Obviously something different happens that we can differentiate them. That which you call objective truth in morality is nothing but someone else's subjective truth generalized to everyone else in a code of conduct such as the law etc. Spirituality we dont 'need' it look around you and see how many people are spiritually inclined. Our need for truth is nothing but the subject trying to make sense of all thats around it. Can you tell me what exists that doesn't have a name? It exists but its not truth because we have not named it yet. Its in the Real of things in that which we cannot symbolize.
Originally Posted by sometime sun
Can something that only exists by definition its self have value.
Or is the value only attributed by the definition?
Which is more valuable the described existence or existing description?
Auction lot, is it a antique or a chair?
I am asking what is the value of definition.
Also what is the definition of value.
Perhaps a new word needs to be coined 'defination'
definition of a definition;
1 a statement of the meaning of a word or phrase. 2 the act of defining a word or phrase. 3 the act of demarcating the extent or boudaries of something. 4 the quality of having clear, precise limits or form. 5 the degree of clearness and preciseness of limits or form- by definition because of what something or someone essentially is or does.
ACT, QUALITY, FORM.
The definition is a quality and form I was asking about.
We base our judgements (which is a measure) which are a value on the definition before the fact or act.
The definition even description is what adds the value more than the thing itself.
We think something is more valuable because there is more definition.
A antique is more valued and than a mere chair.
We base and allot value on the definition before finding what something is actually provably usable for.
So what is worth more an antique chair that may break so can never be sat upon, or a plastic garden chair which will never break?
What is the value of the aesthetic?
What is the value of the function?
Does the art make more valuable than the paint?
Many things exist that are more valuable because of their definition.
What I am asking is if something has a function and is used and usable does it first need definition to be valuable or is only value attributed by function.
In which case a soul is both a function for some so has value.
And soul for some has no function but doe shave definition so despite no function is still valued.
(I hope this helps, I was a little nervous writing it)
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You see now I found this heart-full.
I would rather suck you mind though.
As said if you want a clue, just ask for one.
---------- Post added 06-06-2010 at 01:02 AM ----------
You just here said a soul cannot be owned, agreed soul is a psychological construct and then said a psychological construct can be owned.
This says that a soul by your own definition can be owned.
Please describe further 'price stability'