No T.V for you.

@onetwopi,

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onetwopi;158244 wrote:

Those guys drive me batty. I think the best cable news might come from John Stewart. :eek:

If you get PBS you might wanna check out Charlie Rose. It's not news but current events, very informative and to the point.

@onetwopi,

onetwopi;158244 wrote:

Maybe the problem is that we are reminded of who Hollywood is, what they consider the "norm". I think with TV we are more likely to feel compelled to be something we are not.

Compelled to be the "norm" normal, not different, the same, equal?

Intelligence is feared more than stupidity.

@sometime sun,

The difference in internet and TV is that the internets has given us the ability to choose our entertainment. Also the internet has everything! Radio, TV, porn, music, more porn...

My only reason to watch TV is to spend time with my wife as she HAS to see those stupid reality shows like most eligible bachelor, "real" housewives(more like plastic housewives).

I also love Lost that I can also watch on the internet if I miss the premier day.

@lazymon,

I was going to open a thread called morbid fascination, but it fits here.
Sometimes i like my mind to be deadened a little and at these times i watch a programe called 'Keeping up with Kardashians' it is totally deviod of intelect and expression, but it makes me piss myself seeing and listening to these .........i dont even know what to call them.
It only happens about once a month, but was wondering if there were any programes you were ashamed of or as i would call it morbidly fascinated by?
I think every one who has one has at least one guilty tv pleasure, what is yours?

@sometime sun,

Ahh yes!!! I Have these morbid fascinations as you call them!

TV:
Simple Life ( Paris Hilton)
Girls next door (Playboy models)
Man vs. Food
Bizzare foods with andrew zimmern
Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Sealab 2001

Internet:
4chan (oh god i can't believe I admitted to this)

Maybe I have too many?

@Pepijn Sweep,

Pepijn Sweep;157502 wrote:

No tellie anymore ?

Soooo....

My experiment to live without a computer ended 02/24-2009

I jointed this Form 01/24/2010

Television seems an other world to me

Love local radio/stations !

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;158499 wrote:

I was going to open a thread called morbid fascination, but it fits here.
Sometimes i like my mind to be deadened a little and at these times i watch a programe called 'Keeping up with Kardashians' it is totally deviod of intelect and expression, but it makes me piss myself seeing and listening to these .........i dont even know what to call them.
It only happens about once a month, but was wondering if there were any programes you were ashamed of or as i would call it morbidly fascinated by?
I think every one who has one has at least one guilty tv pleasure, what is yours?

I've got a couple of those. "Everybody loves Raymond" is my favorite, pure entertainment.

@wayne,

wayne;158301 wrote:

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If you get PBS you might wanna check out Charlie Rose. It's not news but current events, very informative and to the point.

Thanks - I'll check him out.

sometime sun;158485 wrote:

Intelligence is feared more than stupidity.

Not by me!

lazymon;158490 wrote:

My only reason to watch TV is to spend time with my wife

What do you think you're getting out of this "time" with your wife? I always thought it was funny to go out to movies on a date--you can never really talk. Maybe this type of TV is different because you can chat about what's going on??

Cheers!

@sometime sun,

TV TV TV... who cares?

@platorepublic,

platorepublic;158711 wrote:

TV TV TV... who cares?

At first, I thought, yeah, I agree with you. But then I thought ... it influences society SO much, maybe we should all care??

@sometime sun,

I have a morbid fascination with The Hills, I gave up on Two and a Half Men, just couldn't bear it anyore.

@onetwopi,

onetwopi;158691 wrote:

Not by me!

Yes but that is because you are probably intelligent, still the minority though.

onetwopi;158691 wrote:

What do you think you're getting out of this "time" with your wife? I always thought it was funny to go out to movies on a date--you can never really talk. Maybe this type of TV is different because you can chat about what's going on??

Cheers!

As i might not have explored enough, i think the TV actually enforces a family unity.
Common identity,
common imagination,
common interest,
common intelligence,
common intention,
common investment.
It gives us a familiarity that in the modern family we find hard to instill.
Takes the place of family game night.
Now what do we have with the computer and a TV in every room?
No commune time.
I used to love to watch my dad laugh at Rab C Nesbit,
and nothing felt like family when we would all sit down to Star Trek TOGETHER,
and the treat beyond treat, my dad would rent the latest Alien movie and with me and my brothers all break the law together by disregarding the 18 warning lable. Probably why i have such an adiction to pop corn is because it was on these nights we would all sit with a huge bowl of the miracle food.
Commune.
I still remember us when watching Predator 2 amazed and excited when we saw the Alien skull in his trophy case, the excitement was electric, we must have rewound that tape 20 times.
Family.
I miss those nights,
I miss them.

@sometime sun,

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@Caroline,

Caroline;159043 wrote:

I have a morbid fascination with The Hills, I gave up on Two and a Half Men, just couldn't bear it anyore.

Charlie Sheen grosses me out.

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;159197 wrote:

As i might not have explored enough, i think the TV actually enforces a family unity.
Common identity,
common imagination,
common ...

This assumes that common ideas are good. Sometimes, isn't it better to disagree? To share different mental pictures with each other?

sometime sun;159223 wrote:

Charlie Sheen grosses me out.

Me too.

@onetwopi,

onetwopi;160211 wrote:

This assumes that common ideas are good. Sometimes, isn't it better to disagree? To share different mental pictures with each other?

Me too.

Yes this is true it is better to sometimes debate than blindly accept.
And the best family unit will teach you how to disagree and still be believable.
But we still all need to sit down around a table or information source and actually be available to each other for the debate to occur.
I do wish my family had been better equipped in the debate of things, but i will gladly settle for a fabulous imagination that we all shared.
We would make our own storries, next episodes, prequals and sequals.
My family have trained me with such an imagination i dont always know what to do with the overflow of it.
My dad was always honestly critical of the art works we all engaged in, my brother is a better artist and designer for my dads honesty.
But it was my dads art that inspired us all to become artists in one form or another.
And my dads training in what he knew that makes my big brother one of the best artists i have ever known, even if he is currently dedicated elsewhere.

So yes it is good to not all be commonly idealistic but if you dont learn a worhty ideal from your family who else can teach you but the individualised?
I think the main and possibly only thing a family has to have in common is goal orientated.
A family needs to be common in achievment.
A family that can do this is what humanity is all about.
The definition and realisation of shared dreams.
And the best family will teach you how not just to survive but how to thrive.

@onetwopi,

onetwopi;160211 wrote:

This assumes that common ideas are good. Sometimes, isn't it better to disagree? To share different mental pictures with each other?

Me too.

Loved Dr. WhO CREATED et cetera

@sometime sun,

sometime sun;160457 wrote:

Yes this is true it is better to sometimes debate than blindly accept.
And the best family unit will teach you how to disagree and still be believable.
But we still all need to sit down around a table or information source and actually be available to each other for the debate to occur.
I do wish my family had been better equipped in the debate of things, but i will gladly settle for a fabulous imagination that we all shared.
We would make our own storries, next episodes, prequals and sequals.
My family have trained me with such an imagination i dont always know what to do with the overflow of it.
My dad was always honestly critical of the art works we all engaged in, my brother is a better artist and designer for my dads honesty.
But it was my dads art that inspired us all to become artists in one form or another.
And my dads training in what he knew that makes my big brother one of the best artists i have ever known, even if he is currently dedicated elsewhere.

So yes it is good to not all be commonly idealistic but if you dont learn a worhty ideal from your family who else can teach you but the individualised?
I think the main and possibly only thing a family has to have in common is goal orientated.
A family needs to be common in achievment.
A family that can do this is what humanity is all about.
The definition and realisation of shared dreams.
And the best family will teach you how not just to survive but how to thrive.

Sometime sun,
You inspire and encourage! I think the world needs more families like yours -- so creative and conversational with each other. It sounds like you experienced TV like many experience books. You and your family created your own visions of the story and characters. I definitely agree with you that the family needs to be the safe place where everyone can share their thoughts, ideas, and experiences.

@sometime sun,

People always talk about mundanity like it is a bad thing. But maybe time-fillers like television are what get us through all those boring, ordinary, fleeting moments in life that are in between the extraordinary moments that really mean something to us. We simply don't have enough energy to have these extraordinary moments all the time, our brains need time to relax and re-boot (not that it has to be TV).

@sometime sun,

Reading, gardening, walks, hobbies, riding, sports, helping family or neighbors, work on the home and social visits used to dominate most of western culture prior to the television. I think we have an ingrained desire to entertain (or otherwise occupy) ourselves.

Television brings us the news and vast stores of knowledge. But most news has become a spin-session and few people really watch documentaries. While both of these are good on their surface, they have their downsides: The news you get is what someone thinks will sell ads (and not just the commercials you skip - many shows themselves are designed to create a 'desirable' fashion, automobile or lifestyle so you go spend your money). The documentaries aired can give an real appreciation and basic concept of what's being discussed, but it's no substitute for active engagement (where that's possible).

Most people watch movies, sitcoms or other shows that are strictly entertainment. In this act, the body is virtually motionless; our reflexes slow, our heartbeats hibernate and our mind goes numb - clouding the mental faculties. I'd suspect that these negative effects probably apply to the internet (depending on what you do with it). There are a myriad of studies that decry the destructiveness television has done to our culture, ability to get along, sense of community and (perhaps most notably) the development of the human intellect in children.

While I'll be the first to stand and applaud what it's given us - its come at a price. And with such a simple, effortless way to 'plug in' and relegate living to those on the screen, its far too seductive (as an entertainment means) for our own good. I don't ever see it going away; the smartest thing we can do is to exercise self discipline to minimize the damage it does us.

Just my thoughts

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