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Would we as humans want to live forever? Even if we made the world perfect? Even if we got to the state of life being one giant orgasm of joy and love.
Personally I dont think so.
This would get boreing. And we would create games like this. Like life. With not quite perfectness. But a playing feild for beauty. And we would need death to kill our ego and start again. This way we will never get bored. This way there would be a reason for something to exist rather than nothing existing atall.
Are there any philosophers that have a similar view to this? basicly Buddhism but the goal not being to transition the ego but it having a purpose. Limiting us so we don't get bored. And always see beauty.
Sure, I'd like the option of living as long as I'd like - being able to terminate it if I so choose. I don't believe there's any 'after life', 'fresh start' or anything of the kind. Sure, it sounds nice, but I personally see no reason to buy in. I'd much prefer to live life on its face value; and all I see and think I know says, very loudly: Yes, we end, "... that soon you will be no one and no where". Also, that this is OK - the nature of all life here on our happy home.
But it is a nice thought; though I'd definitely want to live in that perpetual state as... probably... at least 40 (likely 50-ish or so). Eyes are so much wider opened now, so much more at peace. I don't think many under the age of 35 have any kind of real perspective on even their own existence (maybe some perhaps, always there is precociousness here and there). But then again, such a choice - what age/stage would you want this perpetual state to live in - would depend on what you believe has the most value; perspective, wisdom, the vibrancy of youth, bliss of naivety).
I disagree, If i were to be involved in any accident that causes trauma to the head, I may develop amnesia and forget who i am(what my name is), and all other memories could be wiped out as well. But, i would still be "me", or "I". I think memories are just a facet of "I", and "I" of course, would be my conscious awareness.
You know, the thing that exists if you close your eyes, and clear your mind. That is "you", but of course, its not absolutely clear what that is either, but it does seem certain that it is independent of memory.
Personally, I have never felt as though I have never existed before. I can't imagine such a thought. Even though I have no memory of it, I somehow know I have existed before? Hmmm?
Yes we are diverse as it relates to our own perceptions. it was meant to be that way, but not to divide us as we have come to understand means "war" in varying degrees. So what is the alternative? How could we possibly find peace? I can tell you as long as we deem our exsitence as terminal and act as such, it will never happen, never, as in our greed for life we render this Earth uninhabitable as we suck it dry. I am not necessarily talking about resource wise, for I don't know the true conditions of that, but from a humanitarian point of view as we feast on weak, naive, innocent and defenseless.
Now let's say we are terminal and we must conserve so those that follow will have it better than we, you know our "posterity"? What have we done to insure that. I'm a bit stumped? You? Hmmm? I guess we could leave them money. Yeah, that's the ticket! That ought to do it! After all we are humane, huh? Einstein seem to have something to say in that regard. How does it go now, let's see, "...it seems appallingly clear our technology has surpassed our humanity". Let's hope he was wrong. I doubt it though? He was a pretty sharp cookie. I think there is hope. I really do. But it will have to be a group effort.
I completely agree. I would add on by saying, if we did live forever, as a single consciousness, we would get not only bored, but frustrated. Especially if we didn't know quite what our meaning was. Perhaps one of the reasons that, if we assume this theory is correct, we made ourselves ignorant of what the beginning was, is because this is a vacation. We need a break from the knowledge that we are the only thing that is, and yet we have no purpose.
Im not sure if we could be "the only thing that exists". After all, if we can create ilusions that fool ourselves, that means other things exist, right? =)
I would mind taking a nap after death, as long as I could wake up again.
You know take a nice 200 yr nap and then play for eternity...
If you were dead, there would be no difference between a 200 year nap, or a 2 billion year nap.
Time only exists for the living.
I would like to live indefinitely.
You do live indefinitely. We all do. Or are you simply noting that you like that it's unclear when you're going to die?
Note: I'm using "indefinitely" here as a synonym for "uncertain", "unclear". That is, it's "uncertain" or "unclear" when any of us are going to die.
If we understood genetics, the interaction between our bodies and their environments, and the aging process sufficiently then we would know a definite limit to our lifespans.
Just because we don't currently posess this knowledge, we can still safely assume such a definite limit exists, so when I say indefinitely, I mean without such a limit.
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion. Despite further understanding of genetics and our bodies, we would not know the definite limit of our lifespans. Clearly there is a "chance" element involved, don't you think?
You're correct, we can logically assume a definite limit exists. When I used "indefinitely", I wasn't trying to imply a definite limit does not exist, but that the definite limit is vague, unclear. It's very possible I wasn't using the word correctly, and I completely understand what you meant.