One become All,
God = All,
Talking to MJA is like talking to a stone Wall.

Just kidding with you!

What kind of 'justification' do you seek from a vegetarian? He's reiterated "Equality" and "Oneness" over a dozen times, and this is obviously the source of his unwillingness to eat meat. The understanding behind "Equality" and "Oneness", while I still don't fully grasp, is his truth. My main concern was that I asked for elaboration, detail, and all I got was poetic reiteration (But, as noted, he at least described where he was coming from [detail!], and so I'm more content).

What more do you seek?

I don't seek justification from vegetarians. I seek justification for the truth.

If he doesn't want to provide justification, thats fine, he can eat whatever he like. I just wish that he and others would quit debasing the truth, however.

What justification would you like provided for his truth? Please be specific.

A justification for me not liking icecream could be: I prefer savory over sweet. This is a taste preference. Similarly, a personal truth could have justification; it could be a taste with justification. Demand the type of justification you seek from one highly religious, and you'll get the same faithful responses. No "evidence" will be presented, as there is none (this is what I assume you mean by justification). All we can do is ask for elaboration of the justification for better understanding, as no "evidence" will be provided. It's a belief/faith issue. This is why I ask you to be specific. If you ask specific questions to MJA, he can better address where he's coming from (Well, I'd hope he would!)

That is cause, not justification.

I can make the proposition that the world is flat because I am an idiot, but that doesn't mean the proposition is justified.

A moral statement such as, "I think it's wrong to eat other animals", is not the same as a proposition such as, "I think the world is flat". Through scientific evidence one can demonstrably show the world isn't flat. How can one show, through any method, that "I think it's wrong to eat other animals" is true or false? One cannot. Moral "Right" and "wrong" are outside the boundaries of objective methods. Thus, I still ask: What do you seek? If you seek conclusive "evidence" regarding his personal truth of, "I think it's wrong to eat other animals", you will find none; morality is not guided by objective knowledge.

If you seek objective "evidence" for every moral statement, you must drive yourself crazy!

You are merely arguing that there is no moral truth.

If true, we still cannot say MJA is offering us his "truth".

I believe they are different types of propositions, yes.

If it's *true* to the individual, I call that a personal truth. I understand it could be interpreted ambiguously. Sorry for not clarifying earlier.

How do you differentiate between personal taste and personal truth?

I don't.

When I write "personal", I am leaving the realm of objective understanding. Any proposition made through Science, for instance, would not be considered personal. Neither would any proposition made through any other means of objective rationalization. Taste is personal and can only be justified by our feelings, judgment. This applies to any moral value. How can you objectively measure morality? You cannot, and this is why I ask what sort of justification you desire.

Let me ask you this:

If I say: "I eat meat because I gain the power of the souls of the animals that I eat." Is this unquestionable truth? Assuming you don't bite the bullet and say yes, what makes it questionable or untrue?