2012 - What will happen?

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Shostakovich phil
 
Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2009 08:50 pm
@Kielicious,
In 2012 the Coyote will catch up to the Road Runner and barbeque him on a spit, drink a Guinness, and invite some friends over for the party.
 
Zetherin
 
Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2009 10:06 pm
@Kielicious,
Kielicious;102090 wrote:
"Some say the end is near...
Some say we'll see armageddon soon...
I sure could use a vacation from this...
Stupid ****... Silly ****... Stupid ****...

...One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied..."

LEARN TO SWIM!


My favorite band, Tool.
 
Joe
 
Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2009 06:02 pm
@Zetherin,
Wikipedia: The electron voltis a unit of energy, it is e times V, so it is written eV. It is the amount of energy gained by a single unbound electron when it accelerates through an electrostatic potential difference of one volt.

Physicists find evidence for highest energy photons ever detected from Milky Way's equator. Physicist at nearly a dozen research institution including New York University, have discovered evidence for very high energy gamma rays emitting from the Milky Way marking the highest energies ever detected from the galactic equator.

Previous satellite experiments have seen gamma-ray emissions along the galactic equator reaching up to energies of only 30 billion electron-volts.

What does that mean?

Well imagine this, our suns particle energy is around 500 thousand electron volts. What they found being emitting from the galactic core is up to 7 million times the energy of our sun and travelling near the speed of light.

Wow, up to 7 million times the energy output of our Sun.

This is a reason the temperature on each planet in our solar system is increasing.

Conclusion:

We are going to align with the galactic equator and be able to view the galactic core entirely through the dark rift opening on December 21, 2012 as astronomically predicted by the Maya.

This alignment will indeed cause increased temperatures on every object in our solar system including our sun.

Very Happy
 
Joe
 
Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2009 06:09 pm
@Joe,
Perhaps if we want to understand things that are coming, it should be useful if we look at the work of scientist Dr.Paul LaViolette.

http://www.yowusa.com/radio/cttc/2007/cttc-0307-68/cttc-0307-68.jpg

He is the author of number of famous books as "The Talk of the Galaxy", "Earth Under Fire", "Genesis of the Cosmos (Beyond the Big Bang)", "Subquantum Kinetics" and others.

Dr. Paul LaViolette has 9 degree in physics from Johns Hopkins, MBA from the University of Chicago, and PhD from Portland State University.

He has also published many original papers in physics, astronomy, climatology, systems theory, and psychology. He has served as a solar energy consultant for the UN, Greek government, and Club of Rome Goals for Mankind Project and has also consulted Fortune 500 companies on ways of stimulating innovation.

Research he conducted at Harvard School of Public Health led him to invent an improved pulsation dampener for air sampling pumps.

Related work led him to develop an improved life-support rebreather apparatus for protection against hazardous environments and for which he received two patents.

Recognized in the Marquis Who's Who in Science and Engineering, Dr. LaViolette is the first to predict that high intensity volleys of cosmic ray particles travel directly to our planet from distant sources in our Galaxy, a phenomenon now is confirmed by scientific data.

He is also the first to discover high concentrations of cosmic dust in Ice Age polar sheet, indicating the occurrence of a global cosmic catastrophe in ancient times.



Based on this work, he made predictions about the entry of interstellar dust into the solar system ten years before its confirmation in 1993 by data from the Ulysses spacecraft and by radar observations from New Zealand.

He is currently president of the Starburst Foundation interdisciplinary scientific research institute.



For him, people say that is a genius a brain sharp as a razor, and a unique person.

One key area of Starburst research is concerned with the investigation of Galactic superwaves, intense cosmic ray particle barrages that travel to us from the center of the Milky Way and last for periods of up to a few thousand years.

One thing which is relevant for the 2012-2013 Nexus Event is that the Starburst Foundation discovered that at least two superwaves with the streinght to generate New Ice Age are travelling our way from their place of origing distant around 26,000 Light Years - Galactic Center of the Milky Way.

Attention: Some scientists have measured the distance between our Sun and the galactic center as 24 Light years; others consider that, it is probably something closer then 26,000 years. I personally consider that the second distance is correct.

Starburst researcher Dr. Paul LaViolette began alerting the scientific community to the existence of superwaves in 1983 through his published papers and scientific conference presentations.

He also raised the public awareness about the superwave phenomenon through his book Earth Under Fire as well as through various magazine articles.

Many aspects of Dr. LaViolette's superwave theory have since been verified by recent observations.



The primary goal of Dr. Paul LaViolette's research has to do with the galactic core explosions - violent explosions occurring in the centre of the galaxies.

The research in early 80's led him to ice samples from Greenland and Antarctica.

Particularly in Greenland he found high levels of cosmic dust in the Ice Age part of the core. Which was confirming a hypothesis which was that there wood been an arrival of cosmic rays from Galactic centre around that time.

That arrival had pushed a galactic dust into our solar system causing an extreme climatic change on all the planets in our system. Those cosmic rays filed the area with dust included the Sun and the radiation that reached the Earth was coming with a different spectrum.

In the physical view, the doctor is speaking about more reddish and dusty sky, difficulty of perceiving the stars in the night, but most of it, about the radiation in the infrared spectrum and created what Paul LaViolette calls a interplanetary hot house effect.

Like Earth, our entire solar system has its own atmosphere, called the Heliopause. This "bubble" surrounds the Sun and planets as it travels through galactic space.

Like our earth's magnetosphere, the movement of the heliopause creates a rounded "head" and a narrowing "tail."

http://www.viewzone.com/end2.heliopause.jpg

Actually, it's more egg shaped. Until recently, astronomers believed that our solar system was a region relatively free from cosmic dust. The cosmic dust and frozen material of space were kept outside this protective bubble.

This was confirmed when the IRAS and Ulysses spacecrafts showed infrared images of the solar system, surrounded by whispy clouds of cosmic dust that increase in density just beyond Saturn.

So if the cosmic dust is surrounding the heliopause, what would make it suddenly enter the heliopause and how would this coincide with huge solar flares? LaViolette envisioned something disrupting the heliopause from the outside, impacting it and drawing cosmic dust inside with it and energizing the Sun.

The energy of such an impact would be immense. The most logical place to look for such enormous energy was the Milky Way Galaxy.

Perhaps related to this is the puzzling fact that, even though we have witnessed no Galactic explosions or "bursts", the measurements of cosmic dust streaming inside the heliopause as been steadily increasing to almost three times since the last solar maximum in 2001.

During the solar maximum of each 11 year cycle, the polarity of the Sun shifts - North becomes South and visa versa.

This brief period of magnetic instability allows some cosmic dust to enter the heliopause because the Sun's "shields" are reduced.

But once the new polarity is established, the Sun usually quickly blocks the dust. This time it didn't happen. Cosmic dust has been streaming in from the Glactic center and astronomers are at a loss to explain why.

This is the first time something like that happens, at least in the time frame of our Sun monitoring. Not to mention so many anomalies and new phenomena that appeared this year together with climate change on all other planets. And those changes are far from over.

It's likely that our solar system is already experiencing the invasive energy from the Galactic equator as we move into position and align with it on 2012.

The recent data shows that dramatic and potentially deadly effects can result from solar flares and coronal mass ejections. Substantial data suggests that an event, similar to the one anticipated in the 2012 "doomsday" scenario, occurred about 14,950 years ago and was recorded by ancient humans.

This event appears to have lasted for several years in duration and was responsible for the abrupt end of the last ice age as well as a substantial culling of the human population.

The surprising findings of LaViolette, supported by other research, suggests that the extreme solar event corresponded to powerful radiation coming from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and was associated with gamma rays and cosmic dust.

Recent observations have shown a dramatic increase in gamma ray energy in the Glaxy's equator which will be in maximum while the alignment with our solar system on December 12, 2012.

The past records in ice cores (strata from 13,880 to 13,785 BCE) suggest that intense radiation from this last event could have lasted many years.

It seems highly likely that this alignment will cause another extreme solar event since other factors precipitating a "solar maximum" (i.e. the opposition of major planetary barycenters) also converge on this exact date.

The fact that galactic centers routinely radiate lethal gamma rays makes it unlikely that life, at least as we understand it, can survive in the universe. Sooner or later it is destined to be zapped.

A new genetic study of Y-chromosome variation by Dr. Marcus Feldman of Stanford University shows that the population from which the world's present population is derived consisted of about 2,000 individuals. Somehow, humans, flora and fauna did survive the past doomsday and some may yet survive 2012.

Anyway, let's get back on the findings of LaViolette:

I already mentioned that the primary goal of LaViolette's expeditions was search for evidence of increased levels of cosmic dust in the Ice Core Records which matches the last Ice Age.

-How can you tell if there is a presence of cosmic dust in the ice? Is there a presence of a particular elements that he searched?

Yap, he was looking for the examples of iridium and nickel which are present in high levels in the cosmic dust but on Earth they are much lower.



Particularly the precious metal - Iridium is about one hundred times more abundant that the rest cosmic materials in the cosmic dust. Gold was another one, and he also found the presence of elevated levels of that element in the polar ice.

What about beryllium?

No, to do that, Dr. Paul points out that you need a different technique of analysis. Beryllium can be found with mass spectrometers.

Paul was using neutrino activation which was when you bombarded your sample in reactor, make it radioactive and than you measure gamma rays.

From that you can tell what is in the Ice.

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/student/tinsley1/drilling.jpg
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With the Beryllium10 the radioactive isotope of Beryllium that's created in the atmosphere when the atmosphere is bombarded with cosmic rays and to separate that particular isotope from the other Beryllium isotopes you need an accelerator.

It's a totally different approach but other people had done that work. And they found high levels of Beryllium10 in the ice.

So it did happen before.

Dr. Paul LaViolette testing was conducted from different depths or to be more precise - the ice samples that match the periods between 12-16.000 years ago which was the end of the last Ice Age. Also those samples were matching the times of most known animal extinction on Earth. The time of dinosaur mass extinction.

It is my belief that at the end of the 2012 we can expect a hit of at lest five superwaves with power to cause a New Ice Age and they are travelling this way with speed higher then the speed of Light, from their starting point, distant 26,000 Light Years away - The Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.



What is not clear, did the galactic core of the Milky Way exploded 26,000 years ago, because if the beams are travelling with the speed of light it takes the same time period to reach here, or sooner which suggest that they are travelling high above the speed of light. What on the other hand is not imposible because our telescopes had recorded speeds of galactic jets moving at least five times speed of light.
 
salima
 
Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2009 07:31 am
@GHOST phil,
so does he think this is going to be a good thing or what? even if it causes an ice age, i dont think they can happen overnight, ther would be plenty of time to get ready. ice is good-i would be living in the right place, it is too hot over here.

so global warming isnt going to happen? or it is happening but will cause an ice age...or did i read something wrong? i mean should we start knitting sweaters of building huge desert coolers?

---------- Post added 11-08-2009 at 07:03 PM ----------

sorry-typos-eyes not in synch yet../.
 
odenskrigare
 
Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2009 07:54 pm
@GHOST phil,
2012 - a bunch of people who should have committed suicide earlier will commit suicide
 
Joe
 
Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2009 10:30 pm
@salima,
salima;102439 wrote:
so does he think this is going to be a good thing or what? even if it causes an ice age, i dont think they can happen overnight, ther would be plenty of time to get ready. ice is good-i would be living in the right place, it is too hot over here.

so global warming isnt going to happen? or it is happening but will cause an ice age...or did i read something wrong? i mean should we start knitting sweaters of building huge desert coolers?

---------- Post added 11-08-2009 at 07:03 PM ----------

sorry-typos-eyes not in synch yet../.


lol. the hell if i know. these are just some ideas behind 2012. Im not building a boat, if thats what your asking
 
Sigmund
 
Reply Tue 17 Nov, 2009 01:51 pm
@GHOST phil,
What will happen? The sun will shine, the rain will fall, and people will do stupid things.
 
Caroline
 
Reply Tue 17 Nov, 2009 02:05 pm
@GHOST phil,
No change there then.
 
Pangloss
 
Reply Tue 17 Nov, 2009 02:30 pm
@GHOST phil,
I predict that this will be slightly more catastrophic than the Y2K bug.
 
Zetherin
 
Reply Tue 17 Nov, 2009 03:19 pm
@GHOST phil,
Joe, I think there is some truth in what you wrote. Some of that stuff is scientifically backed.

But none of it has anything to do with 2012.

Not that I can see. And that's the problem with most of these theories - people are trying to make otherwise true scientific facts support these 'revelations'. There's nothing that really spells out December 12, 2012 anywhere (and what a coincidence there's three 12's... that couldn't be contrived... :rolleyes:).

12/12/2012 has entertainment value, is all. People milk stuff like this for all it's worth. Heck, just look at the new 2012 movie (which sucks, by the way... cumulative 39% approval rating on rotten tomatoes).
 
Quinn phil
 
Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2010 09:49 am
@GHOST phil,
I heard something kind of interesting. 2012 is the end of Obama's rule in the White House. I also believe that the Supreme Court just passed a law that said large corporations can spend however much money they want on political campaigns.

Supreme Court: Corporations Can Spend What They Want in Political Races

I think our country's crumbling. That was a very fascist-like thing for the U.S to do, I believe. Maybe 2012 isn't the end of our world globally or econmically, but maybe just the end of our world as we know it? Different economy, and all that kind of stuff. All these earthquakes and stuff in Haiti and Chile sure are looking wierd?

I don't believe in the conspiracy, but I thought this was a pretty interesting take on 2012.
 
mister kitten
 
Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2010 04:26 pm
@GHOST phil,
I watched the movie yesterday.
I also, but not really, read an Aztec calender that said the world will end in 3-5-10! I have scientific data to back me up.

12-21-12 will come and pass, or it will come and pass. Whatever happens to us will happen.
 
Jebediah
 
Reply Thu 4 Mar, 2010 04:43 pm
@Quinn phil,
Quinn;135938 wrote:
I heard something kind of interesting. 2012 is the end of Obama's rule in the White House. I also believe that the Supreme Court just passed a law that said large corporations can spend however much money they want on political campaigns.

Supreme Court: Corporations Can Spend What They Want in Political Races

I think our country's crumbling. That was a very fascist-like thing for the U.S to do, I believe. Maybe 2012 isn't the end of our world globally or econmically, but maybe just the end of our world as we know it? Different economy, and all that kind of stuff. All these earthquakes and stuff in Haiti and Chile sure are looking wierd?

I don't believe in the conspiracy, but I thought this was a pretty interesting take on 2012.


But I think all the supreme court did was overturn a law that was put into place in like 1998.

Natural disasters occur fairly regularly.
 
awareness
 
Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2010 05:39 pm
@GHOST phil,
2012 will mark the end of the U.S. as a world power.
 
Krumple
 
Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2010 06:46 pm
@awareness,
awareness;137321 wrote:
2012 will mark the end of the U.S. as a world power.


China has already surpassed the US in lots of ways. Americans are just stubborn or too stupid to realize that. Does someone in the government actually need to acknowledge it before it becomes true?
 
jack phil
 
Reply Sun 7 Mar, 2010 10:07 pm
@GHOST phil,
It is of interest that the development of modern (written) language happened in Egypt less than 100 years from the start of the Mayan Calendar.

I wonder what an expansion of meaning means? It seems that evolution does not occur over long periods of time but in quick measure... is this how language evolves as well?

Curiously, the first kings (pharohs) are also of this same time period. Maybe we will all be kings. It would be good to rid ourselves of hierarchies, for then we might truly have an quality for all in both what is said and seen.
 
 

 
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