I went through this thread once again and I just want to add a few short comments:

-The whole matter is almost painfully futile and an insult to those who have more serious problems of whatever nature. Many tried to bring the matter on a more general level but even asking this kind of questions is ... ok, there are the forum rules, but be sure I have quite a few adjectives in my head now! I also have a few personal problems that I was hesitating to bring here, because of their subjective and egocentric nature. About my wife for example, being paralyzed and suffering terrible pains because of MS. If you had told us: I had an accident and I'm in a wheel-chair for the rest of my life, or: I am diagnosed with cancer, can philosophy help? I would have recognized that immediately as a legitimate philosophical question and I would given you the best of my mind and heart. But of course these can hardly be called problems compared with what is torturing you, no? Ok, no more :thats-enough:

-Besides I noticed that you didn't thank anybody until now for the analysis of your problem, though the good-willing participants in this thread were thanking each other and produced some good thinking. I guess that the answers were not what you were expecting? Perhaps they were not profound enough, or a bit too concise? Yes profound questions and serious problems deserve the best kind of answers, and you will thank somebody in time no? Hey, I may be a woman or not, but you're not attractive for me at all :nonooo: . Perhaps a little maturity would help.

P.S. Many people die of hiv or hunger before they ever had a gf. I will upload a picture of such a dying person and maybe we could discuss how handsome he is?

Hm, perhaps your question was only a joke?

Ok, I want opinions, peoplez. I am 20 years old and have yet to have a girlfriend. Am I unattractive? I want honest opinions hyuh.

I went through this thread once again and I just want to add a few short comments:

-The whole matter is almost painfully futile and an insult to those who have more serious problems of whatever nature. Many tried to bring the matter on a more general level but even asking this kind of questions is ... ok, there are the forum rules, but be sure I have quite a few adjectives in my head now! I also have a few personal problems that I was hesitating to bring here, because of their subjective and egocentric nature. About my wife for example, being paralyzed and suffering terrible pains because of MS. If you had told us: I had an accident and I'm in a wheel-chair for the rest of my life, or: I am diagnosed with cancer, can philosophy help? I would have recognized that immediately as a legitimate philosophical question and I would given you the best of my mind and heart. But of course these can hardly be called problems compared with what is torturing you, no? Ok, no more :thats-enough:

-Besides I noticed that you didn't thank anybody until now for the analysis of your problem, though the good-willing participants in this thread were thanking each other and produced some good thinking. I guess that the answers were not what you were expecting? Perhaps they were not profound enough, or a bit too concise? Yes profound questions and serious problems deserve the best kind of answers, and you will thank somebody in time no? Hey, I may be a woman or not, but you're not attractive for me at all :nonooo: . Perhaps a little maturity would help.

P.S. Many people die of hiv or hunger before they ever had a gf. I will upload a picture of such a dying person and maybe we could discuss how handsome he is?

Hm, perhaps your question was only a joke?

I only want to express my embarassed silence. Is the Forum becoming the Circus?

Let's hope it isn't becoming the Circus Circus.

Bonaventurian: why do you want to objectify yourself so much? Keep up with the healthy lifestyle for the sake of health.

Dude, ideals aside, we all know that this "beauty is only skin deep" thing is realistically nonsense. People (particularly women) don't look only at personalities. I don't wear my personality on my sleeves.

In fact, it's not sufficient even merely to be average, else women have no reason to talk to you more than anyone else.

So why am I objectifying myself in this way? Because I want a woman (at least at the beginning) to objectify me ( particularly more than other guys).

Anyways, help me objectify myself: Rate me on a scale from 1-100 (1 being the ugliest)?

...Still, I have at least 300 different girls numbers in my phone and go out on an almost nightly basis with women who would love to be with me. The reason: I am motivated, self aware, confident in myself and in the abilities of others, positive most of the time, thoughtful, considerate and above all... charming. With these qualities alone, I can have almost anyone I want.

If you question yourself, others will question you. If you doubt yourself, others will doubt you. If you do not respect yourself, no one else will either. Be, in your heart who you want others to see you as. The rest is just weeding through the masses to find the one you like.

Looooooooooooool! Really Icon, I hope you had at least a FEW turn-downs? It would be really bad for your hm mental development if you would win all and everything :bigsmile: . Sounds all a bit like a conquest here, women are not there to be harvested. I guess we're talking about Love, ba-by... (sticky song). Besides, "If you doubt yourself".. you will grow! Actually I understand Bonny's state of mind very well. I hope he will not spoil it by becoming too much of a Casanova in time. So beautiful is youth, so beautiful are its uncertainties and hopes. Yes, we all had our "Summer of 43" (or was it 42? No matter...)

Hm, and were you (or anybody around here) never looking for the "special one"? I tried a few too, but I got stuck with the best one. Subjective statement? H... no man, she is the best and she will ever be! Hope you will find.. Her! Wishing you the best. C.

"The seducer draws you in by the focused, individualized attention they give to you. Anti-Seducers are the opposite: insecure. Self-absorbed, and unable to grasp the psychology of another person, they literally repel. Anti-seducers have no self awareness, and never realize when they are pestering, imposing, talking too much. Root out anti-seductive qualities in yourself and recognize them in others - there is no pleasure or profit in dealing with the anti-seducer." (Greene, Xiii)

...Then I discovered a simple truth. Right and Wrong are subjective and so long as you learn from your mistakes, you will always be a better person in the end. I am not stringing these women along, nor am I dating or have I dated every single one of them. I am merely the type of person that they wish to be around. I make them feel good about themselves, like they can do no wrong. I make them smile and laugh and I talk to them when they have troubles. I am there when they need a shoulder to cry on and when they need someone they can trust. At anytime, if I wanted them, I could have them. Seduce the mind and the body is yours.

As far as love goes, I have been there. I had the perfect woman and I let it go because I was unsure of myself and unsure of our future. We were 18. She was a russian citizen living in the states and we met by chance. She was and is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen with a smile that could light up the darkest night and a voice which could pull me from the depth of the greatest woe. We were engaged for a year when she got pregnant and things got complicated. It has been many years now and my heart is still a bit rough around the edges. My biggest problem is that I know exactly what I want but have yet to meet anyone who can qualify. I still keep an ear to the ground and a watchful eye but I must be cautious as to not let my mind take over where matters of the heart are concerned.

At the age of 24, I am still young and alive and I still have plenty of time to find that which I desire. Currently, my career and my others loves (writing, philosophy, science, art, and creation) have taken the front line of thought and desire.

Secondly, reference list. Kierkegaard's "Diary of a Seducer" and in particular his analysis of Mozart's Don Giovanni. And of course the strange Memoirs of Casanova, in his old age a librarian (just like me ;-) ). Nobody saw the Fellini-movie? Ah, sorry. Old stuff...