Life is only a joke when you are the person on the short end of the stick of it and those with power are usually the ones laughing funnily at those below them.
There is only those with power and those without it.

Life is only a joke when you are the person on the short end of the stick of it and those with power are usually the ones laughing funnily at those below them.

There is only those with power and those without it.

Life or human existence has no real meaning or purpose because human existence occurred out of a random chance in nature, and anything that exists by chance has no intended purpose.
Life has no meaning, but as humans we try to associate a meaning or purpose so we can justify our existence.

Pessimist,

Difficult to argue with, but hopefully those who are into the game do not stop to ponder the games worth, so much energy expended to take from your fellow man's plate, to state your superiority when you do not know what you are. Still, if you are unhappy, it seems a no brainer, that its better to be rich and unhappy, than poor and unhappy.

Isn't the value of life the same for different people if you strip it to the bone? All this possession, greed, objects and other BS that we have created doesn't mean anything on a deeper level does it?

And power for one thing is the borderline between objects and deeper more important things in life (family, firends, well-beeing etc.) but I assume that you refer to economic and/or political power which to me is just as much humanly made as the machine I'm writing on now.

While I'll agree that there's one type of power that matters, that one power isn't something that can be changed and comes in any shape and form. I'd like to call it Personal Power as it's the kind of power that some people posses where people around them just simply seems to fall in line behind them and follow their orders. They could also be hated but then have the will to do whatever to get to their goal, if they fail or die trying is irrelivent really..

Isn't the value of life the same for different people if you strip it to the bone? All this possession, greed, objects and other BS that we have created doesn't mean anything on a deeper level does it?

And power for one thing is the borderline between objects and deeper more important things in life (family, firends, well-beeing etc.) but I assume that you refer to economic and/or political power which to me is just as much humanly made as the machine I'm writing on now.

Death is the great equalizer.

In a coroners office were all just bodies of flesh and organs.

In the end that is all we are.

Power to me is domination and conquest.

I like all the forms of power personally however you wish to call them.

As a hedonist I find pleasure in all of them.

I'm one of those people who spends little time thinking about others mostly because noone thinks about me.

If noone bothers to care about myself I see no reason in caring about others.

I'm the type a person who sees no value or worth to the lives of others people.

Anymore I just look at people as biological machines made out of flesh with organs inside them guided by a bunch of electrons and various particles. Only my own success is what I care about.

Yes I agree with you, but this thread isn't about death now is it? It's about life, and pretty much the meaning of life and/or the quality of life isn't it?


Once again I agree with you, I'm a power-hungry person if there is any, definently, but for instance political power is useless without the personal power isn't it?

For example:
If the dictator of any nation goes to war with another nation and wins, he conquer them and dominate them to his pleasing doesn't he?
But say that his highest general, the one that he turns to for battle plans etc. have the loyalty of the soldiers, not the dictator himself, doesn't the general have power over the dictator since he can just start a coup if he wish for it and conquer the dictator together with his newfound land?


If you have the personal power, and loyal people around you together with the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, life is yours for the taking.

If you have personal power, and loyal people around you but lack the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, you will fail trying.

If you have loyal people around you together with the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, but lack the personal power, they will debate and argue with every decition you make and will probably choose a different leader, making those loyal people into dissloyal people.

If you lack it all, you don't have a saying in anything do you?

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The reason why you should care about other people is to make them care about you, nomather what you think, you need other people, followers if you will, to make use of any type of power in a larger scale. Violent power over a few induvidual is useless as it's just a matter of time before those people you have violent power over group together just because you have that power.

And by saying that "who sees no value or worth to the lives of others" you are direcly saying that life is worthless, meaning that your life is also worthless, just so you know. You can fool yourself all you want but the truth is that we are all the same, you, your mother, your neighbour, that poor kid in india, we are all worth the same as anybody els. Be it the president or be it the gangbanger, we are worth as much as the spectator values an other life, himself too. You saying that you don't value other peoples lives, means that you value your own life as much.

The reason why you should care about other people is to make them care about you, nomather what you think, you need other people, followers if you will, to make use of any type of power in a larger scale. Violent power over a few induvidual is useless as it's just a matter of time before those people you have violent power over group together just because you have that power.

And by saying that "who sees no value or worth to the lives of others" you are direcly saying that life is worthless, meaning that your life is also worthless, just so you know.

You can fool yourself all you want but the truth is that we are all the same, you, your mother, your neighbour, that poor kid in india, we are all worth the same as anybody els.

You saying that you don't value other peoples lives, means that you value your own life as much.

Yes I agree with you, but this thread isn't about death now is it? It's about life, and pretty much the meaning of life and/or the quality of life isn't it?

Once again I agree with you, I'm a power-hungry person if there is any, definently, but for instance political power is useless without the personal power isn't it?

If you have the personal power, and loyal people around you together with the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, life is yours for the taking.

If you have personal power, and loyal people around you but lack the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, you will fail trying.

If you have loyal people around you together with the inteligence and knowledge needed to lead them to greatness, but lack the personal power, they will debate and argue with every decition you make and will probably choose a different leader, making those loyal people into dissloyal people.

If you lack it all, you don't have a saying in anything do you?

I'm one of those people who spends little time thinking about others mostly because noone thinks about me.

If noone bothers to care about myself I see no reason in caring about others.

I'm the type a person who sees no value or worth to the lives of others people.

Anymore I just look at people as biological machines made out of flesh with organs inside them guided by a bunch of electrons and various particles. Only my own success is what I care about.

Death is the great equalizer.

In a coroners office were all just bodies of flesh and organs.

In the end that is all we are.

Power to me is domination and conquest.

I like all the forms of power personally however you wish to call them.

As a hedonist I find pleasure in all of them.

I like only that which I can have direct control over only.

Well Said Wizzy! - whoot whoot!


Why would they. Like seeks out like and misery loves company.


I'm not sure how old you are but it's not rocket science to know and the being cared about is in direct relation to the care you've shown about yourself and about others. This is a vicious cycle that mankind doesn't seem to grasp. If you want other to care about you, it's time you start caring about others. If you want to receive, you must first be willing to give. In life, you will only get out of it what you have put into it. The same goes for business and anything else for that matter.

As far as not seeing value in the lives of others, well that's only because you don't see the value within yourself. Outside is merely a reflection of whats on the inside. Maybe it's time you consider others... when it all comes down to it, we're one of the same, (a chip off the old block). When you hurt someone else, you hurt yourself. When you love someone else you are loving yourself and to know this you'd have to experience it.


If people were actually body, flesh and particles, you'd be in business. But we're not. We're energy and spirit so is depends on how you identify yourself.

As far as success, that's another subject but I can tell you with certainty that true success is measured by the success you have given to others. If you only care about your success... in the manner in which you speak... you'll never see it. You will NEVER reach any level of success without those close ascending with you.

Success means different things to different people as well. True success is a legacy that will live long after you are gone. The other success is just monetary. But Success is something you'll find when you are willing to give it to others.


You may speak of pleasure but your energy is that of great pain. Think about some of these things you are saying. Take some time to meditate within yourself and try to see the light within the darkness because it's there.

I was a lot like you at one time in my life. Built walls around my ego and my life to protect a very weak and frail being that embraced hatred for my fellow man. I loved power and enjoyed some financial success as well but it didn't take long to see that the success I was seeking was not success at all. Being mean and not caring about others came back to haunt me like a boomerang. It's a learning experience that I had to experience to allow myself to go through the pain of change.

In life, what you receive is in direct correlation to what you give. This applies to everything! If you want to receive love, you must first learn to give it.


Hate to break it to you but the only thing you have direct control over is your perception and your perception will effect everything you do. Outside of your perception you have control over NOTHING!

Why would they. Like seeks out like and misery loves company.

I'm not sure how old you are

If you want other to care about you, it's time you start caring about others.

If you want to receive, you must first be willing to give.

In life, you will only get out of it what you have put into it.

As far as not seeing value in the lives of others, well that's only because you don't see the value within yourself.

Maybe it's time you consider others... when it all comes down to it, we're one of the same, (a chip off the old block).

When you hurt someone else, you hurt yourself.

When you love someone else you are loving yourself and to know this you'd have to experience it.

If people were actually body, flesh and particles, you'd be in business. But we're not. We're energy and spirit so is depends on how you identify yourself.

As far as success, that's another subject but I can tell you with certainty that true success is measured by the success you have given to others

If you only care about your success... in the manner in which you speak... you'll never see it. You will NEVER reach any level of success without those close ascending with you.

You may speak of pleasure but your energy is that of great pain.

Think about some of these things you are saying. Take some time to meditate within yourself and try to see the light within the darkness because it's there.

I was a lot like you at one time in my life. Built walls around my ego and my life to protect a very weak and frail being that embraced hatred for my fellow man.

In life, what you receive is in direct correlation to what you give. This applies to everything! If you want to receive love, you must first learn to give it.

Hate to break it to you but the only thing you have direct control over is your perception and your perception will effect everything you do. Outside of your perception you have control over NOTHING!

I'm one of those people who only seeks power through necessity.

I like only that which I can have direct control over.

I don't seek too much power mostly because I don't like the responsibility involved.

( Likes only being responsible for himself.)

I hope this post makes sense.

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On the contrary what I lack I can take through bloodshed and violence.

There are always options in the world although they may not be ideal.........

Where there is a will there is a way.

In the greater existence of things I do know my life is worthless along with everyone elses but I'm under the impression that since I'm here I might as well have a little bit of fun with it.

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One can know that their lives is worthless but still give it some sort of value nonetheless at the same time.

We might be under the same circumstance but we are not equal.

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Does it make sense? Probally not but then again nothing makes entire sense in this world anyways.

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Life is pretty sadistic, funny and ironic atleast in my mind it is.

I don't want to lead others. I find other people to be too bothersome.

The only time I like others is what I can take from them for myself or what they can do for me through utilizing.

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I have plenty of personal power I just lack the sort of weak civilized humbleness to contend with other people's morality and demands.

I also don't meet the status quo or standards of what we call civilized society.

I despise compromises and self sacrifices especially when they are not mutual.

Of course I have a contingency plan to get around all of this but I'm afraid it is to extreme for fragile ears here to speak of.

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I'm a pretty isolative solitary figure so I really don't have alot going on in the sense of what you are speaking about.

You assume that I have had the same mentality throughout my entire life.

On the contrary I used to be a idealist myself all ready to fight the "good" fight until reality through me off my feet in agony only to open up my eyes to the indifferent world that we live in.

I'm in my 20's. With this amount of knowledge are you now going to play the age card in discrediting me?

What exactly do you say to a man who has gave everything to the point where he has nothing left? I wonder............

Wow you seem to know alot about me. Quite amazing since I have only been a member of this website for only a couple of days.

I wonder what a soldier thinks about that when he pulls the trigger of a rifle pointed at another person's head.

Surely he is not hurt since the gun is point away from himself and by extinguishing his enemy the person he shoots at is neutralized in death where no harm can come to himself.

What is love beyond euphoric chemicals of the brain?

What is spirit? Didn't such archaic symbols die with religion?

God is dead and all that remains is his corpse which government halls decorate themselves in.

Like all pain it is merely temporary and believe me when I say it I will achieve somthing before I die.

Unlike you I don't find a need to hide from myself.

I embrace my ego as it gives me power and it tells me alot about myself along with my more deeper instinctual qualities which nature has biologically provided.

I understand the social indifference in this world with all the selfishness that exists instead of idealizing it in denial and I understand people to be purely selfish psychological egotistical creatures.

I have known plenty of old men upon their death beds in agony because they gave so much in their lifetime only to achieve nothing in what they desired in that came to hate themselves from what was their past choices of giving wishing that they could take it all back.

Your romanticism on life is naive.

If the government has taught me anything it is that if you threaten enough people with violence, imprisonment or death you can make or control people to do just about anything.

whatever happens in our life is not important in the cosmic level.whatever happens in your life the universe is going to be much the same.
Life has no meaning

• Life or human existence has no real meaning or purpose because human existence occurred out of a random chance in nature, and anything that exists by chance has no intended purpose.
  
• Life has no meaning, but as humans we try to associate a meaning or purpose so we can justify our existence.
  
• There is no point in life, and that is exactly what makes it so special.
  
• Life is a ***** and then you die.
  
• Life sucks and in the end you die.
  

we are not created for any grander purpose than the the ants,flies and mosquitoes.do u agree with me?

Though I've only skimmed this thread, I thought I'd present my own personal view, which is rather hedonistic at its roots: No, life isn't meaningless. Life has no inherent meaning, but that doesn't mean it has no capacity for meaning. Everyone is responsible for finding their own meaning in life, if they want it to be meaningful. That isn't to say no one can or should help them, but at the core of it it's a completely personal issue. My meaning for life is twofold: enjoying myself and making life better for others. And while I hate to admit it, it's often in that order. If you can't find meaning in life, I and many others would be glad to help you seek a meaning for yourself...if you require an intrinsic meaning, I really have nothing for you.

whatever happens in our life is not important in the cosmic level.whatever happens in your life the universe is going to be much the same.
Life has no meaning

• Life or human existence has no real meaning or purpose because human existence occurred out of a random chance in nature, and anything that exists by chance has no intended purpose.
  
• Life has no meaning, but as humans we try to associate a meaning or purpose so we can justify our existence.
  
• There is no point in life, and that is exactly what makes it so special.
  
• Life is a ***** and then you die.
  
• Life sucks and in the end you die.
  

we are not created for any grander purpose than the the ants,flies and mosquitoes.do u agree with me?

life has meaning... when you have someone who loves you... :p