mrs reaper wrote:
o.k then explain to me the reason we ALL go through puberty?? the reason for puberty is our bodies being ready for sexual relationships ie... periods , pelvis strecthing need i go on ?? and if sex with children really isnt that bad then try explaining to my freind whos 2 YR OLD DAUGHTER WAS KILLED BY A RAPE PUSHED ON TO HER THAT DAMAGED HER INTERNALY SO BADLY SHE DIED YOU ARE SICK IN MY OPNION SEX WITH ANY CHILD IS WRONG and as for different states having different age limits thats america for you we have one set age for a reason. you carry on being happy in your sick mind and ill carry on telling my kids to be scared of sick twisted people. just ONE person who was abused tell me its o.k as long as the child consents??? also explain to me exactly how that child understands the concept of what they are consenting to???
I WOULD ALSO TRUST SCIENCE ANYDAY TO THE CRAP COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH
Yowza, I am sorry that this conversation has got you so mad, this has been a misunderstanding. The reason humans go through puberty is in many cases yes, to get you ready for procreation. Women's puberty is moreso oriented to this, men's is as well, but most of it is growth and strength to become protectors and guardians, and women also grow and become stronger too. It is all part of maturation.
Anything sexual that hurts people is bad, obviously what you're describing is bad. A problem here, is that even adults who have finished maturation/puberty and are fully sexually mature can still be hurt in similar ways with partners who are too large for them. For example, if you were a midget, or if your partner was Andre the giant, things like that. Maturation alone doesn't make it safe, nor would a lack of it make it unsafe, though it is definately a very good guideline.
I trust science very much, though you must understand that science must back itself to be trustworthy. One issue of misunderstanding here is that when you hear 'sex' you are thinking only of penetrative procreative-style intercourse, when I am thinking of the large plethora of activities classed as that under law, even including things as simple as kissing or hugging too closely, to things which don't involve the insertion of anything into anywhere.
Things are fine if people consent and it is in their best interest. Since determining best interest is hard, we rule that competant people (informed people, 'adult's) are capable of and willing to consent only to things in their best interests. A problem is that informedness and competance are being determined in a generalizing and discriminative fashion. Of course, there's really no fixing it for a long time, there's just no resources for it, but the least people could do is admit the tragedy and unfairness of it instead of defending it, in fear that if they admit something's imperfection it might be tossed aside and become anarchous. I think that's excessively paranoid.
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, another thing to keep in mind is that you don't really know who you are, what you want, or what is right until you have passed your teenage stage. Teenagers and even kids love most flattering attention and don't know or think much about consequences (not only pregnancies but also emotional trauma later on in life when they realize they were taken advantage of). i had my flirtations with adults with adults when i was younger becuase they made me feel pretty or whatever, but once i passed a certain stage i was so disgusted that adults would have made moves on me because i didn't know better but they did
. being about 30 and having a child of my own, i feel like i would do anything to keep people with your sick and twisted ideas away from my kid. adults should just know better and if they are sick in their mind, keep it just in their mind, not acting on it. it's NOT natural in our modern society to think that a 15 year old girl looks good when you're 30 or so. i look at a 16 or 17 or even 21 year old as a kid who just doesn't really know better. but as adults, we should and behave as such.
I don't agree with you. No matter what age you are, you have some idea of who you are, what you want, and what is right. I don't like it when people say people don't just because of their age. It is prejudiced ageism, and is as bad as saying women don't know what they want, or blacks don't know what they want.
Does all of these things change over time? Yeah. Do we ever know them 100%? No, not even when we are adults. As we gain experience in life, not only do we change, but our intraspection and knowledge of our selves and our desires and how we think generally grows. The only time it would diminish is if we stepped off a path and got lost, or if our brains sickened with age or disease.
I think most teens would know about the consequence of pregnancy. For those who don't, yeah their consent should not be considered permission as it is illinformed. At the same time as it is criminal to do that, it also seems criminal for me for teens not to know that pregnancy results from sex. Criminal ignorance enforced by society or neglect.
As for knowing, but not caring? This is a problem adults also suffer with. I want to know why they're not also protected from their own idiocy. Why don't we just regulate procreation governmentally and be done with it?
You have changed, you have gone from liking attention from men, to looking back and hating it. I can think of many reasons people might become disgusted with something like this other than reacting to something legitimately wrong though.
I look at EVERYONE as kids who don't know better, until they prove me wrong. Personally, I think a lot of so-called 'adults' are still kids, and a lot of kids are damned mature and have it together. We should judge by the character of the individual, and not our presumptions about them based on how many wrinkles they've accumulated.
I don't think it's unnatural. If it exists, it is natural. Not everything natural is good though, so don't take my saying that is justification, I just want you to change your vocabulary. What you probably mean is that such attractions are not wholesome or healthy. This is something I can agree would be a possibility, though I am not exactly convinced of. Can you explain how they would be?
How does an adult behave, and why should a person behave adultlike simply because they've been alive a certain length? Shouldn't how we behave be voluntary, so long as it is reasonable and you pull your weight?