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Sun 23 Sep, 2007 10:22 pm
Does anyone remember Peter Puppet ?
Peter Puppet was the creator of the "MUPPETS". A FI kids show. Peter Puppet died from a huge tumor that was attatched to his neck. I remember the FI denying him the medical attention he needed. Anyway I wanted to make a post in his tribute and I am curious as to why Peter Puppets name is not included in the FI deceased list ? It was in 1985 or 86 when he died in one of the homes in the Phillippines. It was an unfortunate suicide.
it was "the Luvetts". (spelling?)
i think this show was one of the best things the family ever produced. i really liked it as a young kid. especially "the Luvetts case history" with the detective.
I grew up in his home when they were filming the luvvets and remember well praying for his tumor frequently. I remember everyone always commending him for his "faith" for not getting medicated, and I remember being shocked when he died, because I was told that Jesus would reward him for his faith and heal him and I believed it. That was probably the first time i started questioning Jesus, thinking that faith didn't help anything.
On a side note, i speak of his death in our book 'Not Without My Sister'.
Peter puppet
Yes he died at the FI home he was staying at.
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JASONLANIK wrote:
Yes he died at the FI home he was staying at.
That sucks...was it a long time ago, or just recently?
Re: Peter puppet
Anonymous wrote:JASONLANIK wrote:
Yes he died at the FI home he was staying at.
That sucks...was it a long time ago, or just recently?
He died in 1984 or 1985. He was a nice guy with a great personality and was also a father to 2 children.
Strange that it is thought that Peter Puppet died in a Family Home in the Philiipines and that he committed suicide, because I knew Peter very well and his wife, and he went back to Australia, was put into a hospice by his parents and he died in Australia and did not commit suicide.
To make sure, I rang a friend of mine who also knew Peter personally and asked how and when he died and she told me the same thing.
Peter was in our home in the PI (before the Luvvet Home) for a while. We had travelled and worked with him in Australia where the Luvetts first were 'born'. We all decided to go to the Philippines together and within a month our whole team was back together in the PI after we'd each sold out caravans (we were on the road).
Peter became ill at our home with Hodgins Disease (tumor on neck). We gave him the option of going back to Australia but he chose to stay. He believed he could beat it. He would get up each morning and make a huge carrot juice and drink it faithfully every day, he ate healthy, he got enough exercise and he was really cheerful...even on his bad days. A wonderful man. The tumor kept growing and he got sicker, but then he started to perk up and seemed to get better and the tumor started to shrink.
He then left our home along with the Luvett's team and went to Manila.
I can't remember how long he was there before he went back to Australia, but we were in touch with his wife and she wrote and told us they were on their way back to Australia as he was getting worse.
We were in touch with them (his wife mainly as he was quite sick by then) and then we heard he had been put into a hospice and then the next thing we heard was that he had died. His wife told us that he died happy because he knew he was going to be with the Lord and he'd had a good life and that he was ready to go.
I cannot believe that he would suicide and I heard that he had died quite naturally and peacefully.
To guest about Peter Puppet
I was in 2 different homes that Peter Puppet lived in during the last few months of his life. He actually stayed a few weeks in the home where I was living during the peak of his tumor. I don't mean to disrespect you guest but I was there and it looks like you were misinformed. Peter Puppet died in Manila in the Philippines. Peter Puppet is mentioned in the new book out called "Not without my sister". It may have some further information about what happened to him.
I called it a suicide because he could have recieved medical treatment and possibly survived but did not because of the pressure from leadership to "TRUST THE LORD". He did not actually kill himself. sorry for that.
"I don't mean to disrespect you guest but I was there and it looks like you were misinformed. Peter Puppet died in Manila in the Philippines".
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I decided to check with some more people who knew Peter Puppet and they confirmed my beliefs that Peter had gone back to Australia and died in the hospice there. These are older people (same age as Peter would have been if he'd lived) who knew him well. I don't know who died in your home, but it wasn't Peter Puppet. As it happened when you were pretty young and going through things yourself, perhaps the truth has become clouded a bit. Perhaps you remember Peter being sick in your home, and then the next thing you remember is 'he died', but the bit in between is blurred.
to guest
Anonymous wrote:"I don't mean to disrespect you guest but I was there and it looks like you were misinformed. Peter Puppet died in Manila in the Philippines".
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I decided to check with some more people who knew Peter Puppet and they confirmed my beliefs that Peter had gone back to Australia and died in the hospice there. These are older people (same age as Peter would have been if he'd lived) who knew him well. I don't know who died in your home, but it wasn't Peter Puppet. As it happened when you were pretty young and going through things yourself, perhaps the truth has become clouded a bit. Perhaps you remember Peter being sick in your home, and then the next thing you remember is 'he died', but the bit in between is blurred.
At this point it is who you chose to believe. My main reason for his mention was to honor him and place a post in his tribute. He was a great person as I remember him. Jason
I met Peter in the last days of his life and while I'm not 100% certain of this as we all lived in a world of lies, I'm fairly confident he died in The Philippines.
If proof exists that indicate otherwise, I for one would be very curious to find out the real story.
to hidden guest
Anonymous wrote:"I don't mean to disrespect you guest but I was there and it looks like you were misinformed. Peter Puppet died in Manila in the Philippines".
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I decided to check with some more people who knew Peter Puppet and they confirmed my beliefs that Peter had gone back to Australia and died in the hospice there. These are older people (same age as Peter would have been if he'd lived) who knew him well. I don't know who died in your home, but it wasn't Peter Puppet. As it happened when you were pretty young and going through things yourself, perhaps the truth has become clouded a bit. Perhaps you remember Peter being sick in your home, and then the next thing you remember is 'he died', but the bit in between is blurred.
fyi- my memory serves me fine. If you read my other posts you can see my memories are far from blurred.
We knew Peter Puppet from when he was in the Philippines, just before he died.
He was getting healed from his cancer and it was receeding because he choose to serve the Lord, and went to the mission field. he had great love and great charima with the young. It was natural and he could literally mesmerise them not just with puppets, but his personality.
But it is when he and the families around him, the Sunshine Family who were ego-tistical and proid and isolationist, that his cancer came back. They rejecting any local help, and us, and elevating themselves above the common folks around them, that they fell. And Peter did the same to be part.
Sam Perfilio and his wife encouraged money as the treatment when the Lord Himself was curing Peter, and yet as leadership used our money for themselves, Sam did offer and give huge amounts for Peter to go to the Manila Heart and Cancer Clinic.... but Peter disobeyed the Lord and stopped being a missionary and choose money and TF rather than the Lord, and so the Lord took him.
A sad lesson in our opinion, but Peter did have a very very special gift. And he was using it until seeduced away from his calling to reach the kids.
Peter came to Bacolod, where we were living as missionaries, before the arrival of the big timers from Manila, and the big timers from Australia.
Originally on arrival Peter was totally humble and sweet and loving. he literally able to have a crowd of kids around him like Peter Piper. But within months of him staying in the nbewly established isolationist home of Aaron and Sky and Jesh, heis atitude changed because he was told they were the great ones and would go great places via a world wide TV series. But it never happenned because of their terrible demeaning atitudes, and hence it got worse for Peter, and trusting in the medications and money, as with Kezia's problem it still wouldn;t cure him, as the Lord took away his healing and the cancer returned.
We were there, we saw it in the spirit and in real life. Peter choose the Family and so-called grerastness rather than staying humble and staying a missionary. But at least he did love the Lord, despuite his mistake of siding wioth F leadership rather than the Lord. he knows better now.
Would like to know your Family name 'jayjay' and 'Guest'. I was at the Bacolod Home too. My memories of it and the people there are completely different to yours, but I guess everyone sees things differently.
Re: Does anyone remember Peter Puppet ?
For some reason I felt the urge to google the Luvetts and came across your conversation:
My Family name was Abraham Eureka. My wife's name was Eunice. We were in Australia for several years. Two of our children were born there. One in '83. The other in '85. I and my wife Eunice helped the show financially and otherwise. Peter came home to Australia where he died in a hospice. I visited him there. It was near Kings Cross. Although in great pain, he refused any pain medication. He was trying to redeem himself in "Father" David''s eyes after a strong, public and merciless rebuke in the "letters".
I also attended Peter's wake and met his father and mother who held the wake at their home in Sydney. It was very small.
The whole scene was a waste of talent. Peter and his crew were dedicated. Despite their dedication, talent and hard work, they lived in relative poverty trying to please the Family hierarchy. A shameful waste of life.
God help us all.
Re: Does anyone remember Peter Puppet ?
I was in Sydney when Peter Puppet passed away. I don't know all the details of what happened in the PI, but he came back quite anonymously without most people knowing about it. A good friend of mine "Steven Space" from Canada used to visit him a few times a week and take him out in the back of his station wagon to the beach and places. I was living in the home of the country's leaders and they never mentioned him or that he was back. Leaders who used to live in the PI as well. A hint as to who that was is a letter was written about him going back to his wife over joining a selah home and getting spat out of gods mouth.
The fact that Peter Puppet refused any kind of treatment was a big issue with his mum and dad. His father was a doctor, so it was hard for them to just stand there and basically let him die. It was so bad that they often didn't visit him very much. He had bed sores and though died peacefully, was in a lot of pain and very bed ridden. An even sadder thing was that the TFI didn't even mention it or even attend his funeral. It was like the big elephant in the room that no one talked about. Thinking back on it at times, it was a very disgraceful thing to allow any family member to be in that situation and not show compassion and concern. I think the real reason was that no one dared to say anything after that big rebuke he got publicly from berg. God help us for our lack of guts!
JoJo
Thank you for honouring my Dad with this post. I am his only biological daughter. Its been 25 years since he passed away, and recently we exhumed his ashes from the Philipines and we are planning on having a memorial for him. It was a terribly the way he was treated. I've recently heard the truth from my Grandma and it is disgraceful. He died with out the support, care or love from his family or "spiritual family". Unfortuanalty at the time my mother was instructed to leave us, her young children alone in the Philipines (aged 4,5,7) and dump her dying husband off so she could work for an escort agency which was more important to the leaders at the time. I believe it was one of the first time Berg was shown up to be a false prophet, so in his true arrogant and self serving nature, he disgrace hmi pubicly and rejected him for his "spiritual sins." Losing my brother recently to suicide has brought back these memory and emotions. So I am attempting to honour his short life with a memorial and try to have some sort of closure. As we had to burn all his photos, art and poetry we have only our memories. If anyone has any memories or photos of my Dad, or knows anyone that does please get them to contact me on
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