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The book of Job - for the sheer hilarity really.
After years of piety he is hit by disaster. Unlike most innocent victims he is allowed to converse with God about the seeming injustice of it all only to hear the answer of "you wouldn't understand".
Many theologians have wrestled with the same questions at book length only to end up with the same answer.
what's not to understand?
I'm like all the stories about the knights templar, they contain everything I'm intrested in, christianity, Jesus, brave knights, the holy grail and unsolved mysteries. I think that most of what's said about the knights templars are just myths. But I like that they were real, but still have a connection to the fairytales, King Arthur and so on. I also like King Arthur stories, and myths from the ancient greeks and the myths from scandinavia about Tor, Oden and those guys.
Do you remember the name of the castle please xris?
Well, the book is really a comic meditation on why bad things happen to good people in a universe putatively designed by a benevolent omnipotence.
Q: Why do bad things happen to good people in a universe putatively designed by a benevolent omnipotence?
A: Moves in mysterious ways. Can you draw Leviathan with a hook? No? Well stop asking awkward questions of God then!"
I don't think it provides a good example of behaviour in the face of adversity - unless taking to your bed and complaining is helpful.
Dave Allen,
The book of Job is so far reaching and complex in its origins and interpretation. It's really a great myth. Some scholars say that Job is a Judaic-Christian interpretation of elements of the Odyssey and specifically Odysseus' relationship with Poseidon. The thesis that the choices that you make in turn make you the person you are today is a far reaching message in almost every culture and branch of society. It's a shame that many choose to interpret it based off of the Christian label rather alone rather than the core of the story though, it's really a great myth with an integral message.
I personally think the Odyssey has a rather more clear influence on the Book of Jonah, with it's themes of a lengthy and troublesome nautical wandering as the result of hubris.
I do see why Job's relationship with Yahweh might be seen as synonymous with Odysseus and Poseidon - though I think the meditation on why bad things happen to good people is more clearly delineated. Odysseus is in the Greek heroic mould - an adventursome pirate really - and therefore in terms of conventional modern morality he brings his misfortune on himself by refusing to acknowledge the wisdom of those who offer him a decent travel itinery from the beginning. His troubles are the result of his lifestyle.
Whereas Job is not noted as adventuresome, but for being good. Satan (presented as a courtier rather than an adversary) tempts Yahweh into a bet that Job can be made to despair of Yahweh if subjected to hardship - and he sort of wins really, because Job eventually does take to his bed and sulk.
So I think they are quite different - Odysseus offends by ignoring hubris and wounding the Cyclops, whereas Job is merely the victim of a wager.
Dave Allen
The book of Job - for the sheer hilarity really.
After years of piety he is hit by disaster. Unlike most innocent victims he is allowed to converse with God about the seeming injustice of it all only to hear the answer of "you wouldn't understand".
Aedes,
Gotta love Krishna, the eight avatar of Vishnu. I don't think I could read even a good portion of the epic though. I'm only really familiar with the Bhagavad-Gita and Krishna's counsel in time of war to Arjuna. But come to think of it, I think that the issue between Arjuna and sacred duty and the issue between the slaying of Remus at the hands of Romulus are connected. In both cases, Romulus and Arjuna are compelled to do their duty, whether it be a sacred duty to the city or in the fulfillment of Dharmic course. Its good stuff.
