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Heck guys I never thought that removing the original post and then replacing it would lead to further dialog but that is not a bad thing, so be it

I am going to close this thread. Twirlip is right. First, there is too much editing that had gone on in the thread creating a confusing mess. Also, I thought that this thread was more appropriate in the Evangelism forum rather than the philosophy of religion forum so I moved it. Thus, the thread has been altered and kicked around so it is best closed before it degrades further.