Pretty hard to take exception to your approach.

You might consider, with regards to your Q1, that if there is a God, and God DID NOT create existence, then what was God doing while all of that was going on?

That if God is not the origin of being, then from whence does being come?

A designer god,

a pick a mix collection that in reality like all gods has anomalies. He does not intervene but on occasions he does ,he lets us get on with our lives but interferes. He helps the middle classes with silly requests but ignores the starving child , just because it did not know how to make a request,oh my oh my.

Why not a designer god?

I always find it interesting that many people identify as 'philosophers' still seem to hold a rigid conformity to the notion that conceptualizations of God must adhere to previous conceptions introduced by religions.



That is a very poor characterization of what I actually said.

But since you seem to disagree, what is your take on the nature of God?

--IntoTheLight--

I dont propose to describe god

but if i did i would be not so bold as to make a claim and then not defend my description.

Its the pick and mix, hoping that the awkward bits have been removed that concerns me.

Bou made the claim, it helps you constantly ,why you and how does it help you?

Firstly, I will take to issue, again, the very word "God." Here, you are giving us a word that is synonymous with the word Jehovah (putting it most concisely, and in a slightly different from usual approach). I think it'd further your presentation much more to use the simple, common noun, 'god,' rather than the (actually) proper noun (a name) "God." (because then you'll be stuck to the Old Testament god-model)

Then, my take on god (not YHWH):
[INDENT]Everything that has happened in the history of this known universe, to the extent that we know of it with fair security (so leaving some things, such as before, or at, expansion time 1 second; exactly what lineage of animal both we and that which went towards the primate, was; and so on, aside) is god in action. There is not a thing which has has no mark made on it (a figure of speech, here) by god, and in that sense does not know of god (not saying all things 'know' in the anthropomorphic sense), although god knows not of all that does know of it.

Volition and concern, in the broadest terms of these, are within god, yet are most evidently the least of the essence of god. While evaluation is also most evidently one aspect of god, not all that is god evaluates, nor does all that is god admit to awareness or knowledge (in an anthropomorphic sense) of the means, purpose/reason of the evaluating process.

Most thinkably, god is, but that is all that can be said about god other than our present knowledge of god-workings, god-states, and so on--although we can always muse further. It is most clear, that god is not found in any concretely way as described of by the anthropocentric, anthropomorphic models of human creations, although, most ironically, all such endeavors are god-workings.

This forum is a god-workings result, as are the eyes in my head sockets. . . which have grown tired now, looking at all these god-workings on this page. . . going from my brain, all the way through half of my spinal column before rushing out through my arms, into my several fingers, into the keys, through the lines of translation and on the screen, then feeding back into my eyes again. Yes . . . god workings are in mysterious and wondrous ways !:a-ok:[/INDENT]

A designer god, a pick a mix collection that in reality like all gods has anomalies. He does not intervene but on occasions he does ,he lets us get on with our lives but interferes. He helps the middle classes with silly requests but ignores the starving child , just because it did not know how to make a request,oh my oh my.

Starving children are a direct result from mans actions such as greed.
Thanks.

Well I don't believe in God in the biblical sense. As I said before I don't know if God exists, what I do know is that evil is caused by man.

I told you I don't know what God is xris, but I don't believe in the God portrayed in the bible, in the good against evil. What makes you think I'm not agnostic? I don't sit on the fence how can I when I don't know what God is or if God exists.

I told you I don't know if God exists. I still say man is responsible for his own actions good or bad.

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And if he did exist one would hope that man would choose to be good after all it's obvious it's his choice.

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I'm more interested in prevention rather than a cure or devine intervention of all mans evils.

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As I said, I use the word "God" for ease in communication. Saying, "Non-Corporeal Sentient Energy-based Entity in Quantum State" is quite a mouthful and more likely would draw looks of concern that I was crazy.

In regards to you "God" = "Jehovah" thing, I don't think that holds much weight because many Sikhs, Muslims, Rastafarians, Zoroastrians, Agnostics, Atheists, Hari-Krsnas, and many other religions use the word "God" to express their conceptualization of their deity.

I believe in what I call "God", but my view does not correspond to any particular religion, nor am I a member of any religion.