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The messianics and christians accept him this is the cross between the two. The jews accept torah and do the messianics, but not the christians this is the split. What do you think?
I think you should forget religion completely and read the bible.
Aedes are you sure about Islam?
Think about it maybe they're practices are more similar but I think Christianity is more compatable.
Christianity uses mainly the new testament scripture Islam has the Quran. Christianity teaches loving G-d and others (although they fail practicing this through history) Islam teaches to hate Christians and Jews and to kill them
Judaism is based on practices not strictly beliefs
but they both share the same text
Christianity and Judaism may be a far cry from each other in practice and belief but if they both agreed on these two points then it would all be apart of the same faith.
I know I'm mixing theology with history here, but it's important because we are here and now, and we got here somehow. So answer me this -- if these religions are so compatible and so close together, then why has one of the consistent and repeated projects in Christian lands, from late antiquity all the way up through Hitler, been to destroy the Jews?
The thing that a Jew theologically can never understand about Christianity is how the messiah could have actually come to earth, revealed himself, died, and the world went on just as 'poor' as it had been before.
It's no wonder that Gibbons (author of Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and the first great historian of the period) attributed its fall in large part to the influence of Christianity (though this view has been criticized).
don't think that anyone could argue that Jesus didn't have a huge impact which would place him in a relatively small group of world-influencers.
I would be one who would critisize this view. The apathy, self-centeredness, and corruption that caused their eventual demise had their roots established well before the influence of Christianity.
I can easily argue that if the question is framed correctly.
Well, true or not Gibbons' argument was extremely elaborate and based on exhaustive study of the subject -- it's not a one-liner on his part. As for my own understanding of the period, I think there are other factors unrelated to corruption that better explain the collapse of Rome. But that notwithstanding, when you look at the life span of the Roman empire, it did decline after the life of Jesus, and it declined further after the mass conversion of Rome to Christianity, which to me argues against any thesis that the world somehow miraculously changed.
Furthermore, the real issue is eschatologic, and you have to address that. What does it mean for a messiah to come, to preach, to perform miracles, and to die, and yet time marches on and on and on. Seems more like a prophet than a messiah in terms of archetypes if his context is an as of yet unfulfilled promise of saving the whole world at the end of time.
Taking your view, one could argue that no individual has ever had a significant impact, since it is only through people following them that anything significant is achieved.
even if Jesus were only a myth, then that myth has certainly had a huge impact on history.
Israelite, can I ask why you hyphenate G-d rather than just spelling it out? If someone is searching for topics related to God, they won't be able to find them and I really don't feel like going back and editing all your posts so please offer a reason for not spelling God out.
Thank you!
Israelite, can I ask why you hyphenate G-d rather than just spelling it out? If someone is searching for topics related to God, they won't be able to find them and I really don't feel like going back and editing all your posts so please offer a reason for not spelling God out.
Thank you!