@zeroone,
zeroone;64133 wrote:Your work Dale is very significant. Your
website contains a lot of information about John Worrell Keely and cosmology.
What I'm trying to do here is compare some of Keely and Russells work.
And I apologize for not being clear enough about Initial Impulse and Pressure zones. I'll try to clear this out, even though it will require some time.
Thanks for the compliment. My website also contains a great deal of information about Walter Russell and many other inventors, discoverers, scientists, engineers and philosophers. And a lot of other stuff too.
Master Index (as incomplete as it is)
SVPvril web site MASTER INDEX
You are correct - to sort all this out takes a lot of time, effort and creativity. I've been at it since the early 1980s and I feel I'm only beginning to scratch the tip of the iceberg.
zeroone;64133 wrote:*LAW OF MATTER AND FORCE: "Coextensive and coeternal with space and duration, there exists an infinite and unchangeable quantity of atomoles, the base of all matter; these are in a state of constant vibratory motion infinite in extent, unchangeable in quantity, the initial of all forms of energy."
Let's find some keywords from above state:
The "key word" concept won't work so well here, IMHO. Perhaps "key concepts" would be better working method. We definitely do need definitions that work for everyone. You see I see little conflict between what Keely and Russell each wrote about. (You do realize we have far more material generated by Russell than Keely? Keely's writings have vanished and those who do have them refuse to share.)
zeroone;64133 wrote:Let's find some keywords from above state:
Now let's see what Dr. thinks about that:
"The undivided and unconditioned Light of Mind is an eternal state of rest.
That invisible Light of the Spirit is the eqilibrium of absolute balance and abstolute stillness, which is the foundation of the divided and pressure conditioned universe of motion...
The Light of Mind is the zero falcrum of the wave lever from which motion is projected. Its zero condition is eternal. ..." W.R. A new concept of the universe - The undivided light p.12
Your quotes above refer to the Mind side of the universe. Keely's referred to quote refers to the material side of the universe. They are not the same things and their natures and conditions are different. The quote does say it is the Law of
MATTER and FORCE. The Russell quotes are about the quiescent MIND (undifferentiated MIND whereas matter is differentiated MIND).
A few Keely quotes on the nature of Mind (There are different states of Mind and these quotes do not cover all of them.)
"...the action of mind over matter thoroughly substantiates the incontrovertible laws of sympathetic etheric influence; that the only true medium which exists in nature is the sympathetic flow emanating from the normal human brain, governing correctly the graduating and setting-up of the true sympathetic vibratory positions in machinery..." [Keely and His Discoveries]
"...the etheric, or will-flow, is of a tenuity coincident to the condition governing the seventh subdivision of matter, a condition of subtlety that readily and instantaneously permeates all forms of aggregated matter..." [Keely and His Discoveries]
"The sympathetic conditions that we call mind are no more immaterial in their character than light or electricity. The substance of the brain is molecular, while the substance of the mind that permeates the brain is interetheric and is the element by which the brain is impregnated, exciting it into action and controlling physical motion. In order to trace the successive triple impulses, taking the introductory one of sympathetic negative outreach, towards the cerebral neutrals, which awaken the latent element to action, we find that mind may be considered a specific order of interatomic motion sympathetically influenced by the celestial flow and that it becomes when thus excited by this medium a part and parcel of the celestial itself." [Snell Manuscript]
zeroone;64133 wrote:"...Our moon is not one minute old in cosmic time. It could, therefore, have no 'initial impulse'...." W.R. A new concept of the universe - Regarding "Initial Impulse" p.46
Sorry, I don't find anything about the moon or the phrase "initial impulse" in the Keely quote referred to. Keely did, in other writings refer to an "introductory impulse" which was an induced pulse or strike of a hammer on some vibratory triggering mechanism. Here is one such quote:
"Keely teaches that an unknown potency is held in the atom's tenacious grasp until released by an introductory impulse given by a certain order of vibration, depending upon the mass-chord of the aggregation; which impulse so increases the oscillation of the atoms as to rupture their etheric capsules." Bloomfield-Moore
zeroone;64133 wrote:"Any form of matter becomes another form of matter if its pressure condition is changed. Nature perpetually changes one form of matter into another by perpetually changing its pressure conditions. ..." W.R. A new concept of the universe - The new concept of matter p.65
Not only does Keely completely agree with the above Russell quote he goes on to describe the conditions that would make it so. Remember the "pressure conditions" are part of more complex equation - one involving all of Russell's 18 dimensions (Locked Potentials) which includes frequency:
Law of Atomolic Synthesis of Chemical Elements
"Harmonic pitches of atomolity produce association of etheric-atomolic particles to form atoms; the kind of atom is determinable by the pitches employed."
zeroone;64133 wrote:"The birth of any body from izs falcrum zero to its zero of maturity and back again to its falcrum is a cycle. Cycles of wave vibrations in an electric current, or in a musical note where the vibrations are so fast that the sound is heard as a continuous tone, are known as wave frequencies. ..." W.R. A new concept of the universe - Vibrating matter - the root principle of atomic structure p.81
The above quotes mix several different concepts and would take more time than I have to answer all and more space than this forum ought to devote to a single response. Suffice this quote from Keely reflecting on a number of the aspects that would be touched upon in a more comprehensive response.
The ultimate constitution of matter and the action of the force regulating its phenomena, Keely (pre 1893)
"First. Matter is capable of infinite subdivision.
"Second. In the aggregation of matter, force or energy is stored up or conserved.
"Third. In the dissociation of matter, force is liberated.
"Fourth. All matter is in a state of perpetual activity, whether the substance under consideration be inanimate or animated, visible or invisible.
"Fifth. There is no dividing of matter and force into two distinct terms, as they both are ONE. FORCE is liberated matter. Matter is force in bondage.
"Sixth. All motion is synchronous; no sound or movement can be made but all that moves or sounds does so in harmony with something.
"Seventh. All structures, whether crystalline or homogeneous, have for their unit structures minute bodies called molecules. It is the motion of these molecules with which we have particularly to deal; as in experimental research and demonstration, when we produce an action upon one molecule we do so upon all the molecules constituting the mass operated upon.
"Eighth. These molecules have an envelope, rotating with inconceivable rapidity, formed of a high tenuous ether, whose place in the order of subdivision ranks third, the three divisions being,-first, molecular; second, atomic; third, atomolic. (For convenience' sake we will use the term atomolic in place of etheric in our subsequent definitions.)
"Ninth. This atomolic substance has a density approximately 986,000 times that of steel, enabling it to permeate steel as light penetrates glass; this rotating envelope of atomolic substance is in a liquid condition. There are four conditions of matter; viz. solid, liquid, gaseous, and ultra-gaseous. These conditions result from greater or lesser range of oscillation of the composing units individually: this is equally true, whether the units are molecules, atoms, atomoles, planets, or suns. But one LAW governs all matter.
"Tenth. This molecular envelope, rotating with such great velocity, holds in its embrace the next subdivision of matter, the atomic. There cannot ever be more or less than three atoms in any molecule. These are placed so as to form a triangle in the interior; they rest in a condition of substance, or matter, we will term inter-molecular. In this inter-molecular substance we find an enormous energy or force in bondage, held thus by the rotating envelope enclosing it. Were we to rotate a spun brass shell, say nine inches in diameter, at a very much less rate of speed than that at which the molecular envelope rotates, -- say nine hundred revolutions per second, --- its equator would first bulge out, then form into an oval disc. A solid block of wood subject to such revolution would swiftly fly to pieces. The rotating envelope of a molecule, unlike these, the greater its velocity of rotation, the greater is its compression toward the centre of the molecule. The rotation of this envelope is of such a nature as to produce an internal pressure upon every portion from every point of the molecule as a sphere. Were we to consider a rotating envelope as ordinarily understood, it would be one in which the envelope rotated around an equator having poles of no rotation; i. e. the poles would not possess the compressing force of the equator: the result would therefore be a compressed equator, and the intermolecular substance would pass out without resistance at the poles.
"Eleventh. If it be possible let us conceive an envelope with an equator, but destitute of poles, a number of these rotating over the sphere, this atomolic envelope possessing an almost infinite attractive force toward the centre of the molecule, pressing in the inter-molecular substance, where it is held until this revolving envelope becomes negatized by a certain order of vibration, when the enclosed matter rushes out to its natural condition of concordant tenuity, as in the case of gunpowder, dynamite, and nitro-glycerine. This force, we must see, has been held in the embrace of the rotating envelopes of the unit-structures, or where does it come from? This force at the time of an explosion was liberated by shock or fire, both being orders of imparted motion or vibration. How much greater the result would be were we to associate a scientific instrument now completed, and shortly to be given to the world, with such an agent as nitro-glycerine; one pound of nitro-glycerine would have its destructive force augmented beyond all possible control. These instruments are carefully concealed by wise masters from all persons save the few who are already prepared to study their potency with the exclusive end in view of aiding the real scientific progress of humanity; and, furthermore, it may be truly stated that a ferocious sensualist, however powerful his intellect, would be utterly unable to either comprehend or operate one of these marvelous constructions.
"Twelfth. Next in order of consideration is the second subdivision of matter - the atomic. The atom has the same rotating envelope as the molecule, governed by the same laws of rotation and compression. The rotating envelope holds in its embrace the interatomic substance and three atomoles resting in it, the atomoles within the atom being constructed after the same pattern as the atom and the molecule, obedient to the same laws; the atomic being simply the third subdivision of matter. The threefold order is absolutely universal.
"Thirteenth. The atomolic substance is what is termed the ether which fills all space and is the transmitting medium for all celestial and terrestrial forces. This is the liquid ether of occult science.
"Fourteenth. The atomoles are made up of atomolini (singular atomolinus ); the subdivision of matter from this point is beyond man's power, as at this point it escapes all control of apparatus, passing through glass and hardened steel as a luminous flame without heat, which is hardly seen before it vanishes, - a perpetual flame coldly luminous.
"Fifteenth. This again, from previous analysis, is made up according to the triple order, and may again be subject to subdivision, even to infinity."
zeroone;64133 wrote:This are just quotes and in order to understand them man has to read whole sections or whole book.
It would be very interesting to make some more comparisons.
But this is not enough - we have to extend this knowledge by adding more personal thoughts and opinions.
Zeroone
You are again correct Zeroone - one would have to read dozens of books if not hundreds (which I have) to develop and fill out the paradigm hinted at by Keely and Russell. The cosmology I've been working on for the past couple of years is such a comparison as you mention. It contains hundreds of graphics (including some of Russell's), some of Keely's and some of mine and of others - all to illustrate and clarify points of philosophy and science. It will take years to complete this cosmology assuming the world holds itself together, the MIBs leave me alone and I don't quit. The time could be shorten if I ever find a qualified person(s) to help.
