The Greatest Regret of Mankind

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Lily
 
Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2010 12:21 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Diogenes;138537 wrote:
If violence is not the answer, then what is the question leading to it?

All sorts of stupid probelms:ya-think:
 
Purplesawdust
 
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2010 06:44 pm
@gotmilk9991,
I have to go with the power that the Christian Church had and used during the Middle Ages.
 
William
 
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2010 07:33 pm
@gotmilk9991,
I have been observing this thread and it is truly sad no one, I mean no one has hit upon the very worse thing we have ever done in all our existence. Not one. Perhaps it is so bad that no one wants to bring it up. Damn! I'll go a little longer to see if anyone comes up with it.

William
 
Purplesawdust
 
Reply Sat 27 Mar, 2010 07:58 pm
@William,
William;144917 wrote:
I have been observing this thread and it is truly sad no one, I mean no one has hit upon the very worse thing we have ever done in all our existence. Not one. Perhaps it is so bad that no one wants to bring it up. Damn! I'll go a little longer to see if anyone comes up with it.

William


Could we have a hint?
 
William
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:13 pm
@gotmilk9991,
Okay, it has to do with medical research.
It was instituted to cure the dis-ease of the aged.
Phil Donahue was instrumental as were others in setting the stage for it.
The family was redefined and shamed to allow it.
Viet Nam was the distraction that allowed it to slip through our courts.
The flower child was too stoned to care.
Pornography was legalized because of it.
Radical feminism was given a voice it never never had before.
Men and women began losing their sexual identity.
The medical research that cured polio made use of it.
It has caused more death that all the wars put together.
Any concept of morality was put at a standstill.
People don't talk about it because of the guilt it would cause.
They defend it for the very same reason when they do.
And it's legal.

That should do it.

william
 
ughaibu
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:29 pm
@William,
William;146465 wrote:
Okay, it has to do with medical research.
It was instituted to cure the dis-ease of the aged.
Phil Donahue was instrumental as were others in setting the stage for it.
The family was redefined and shamed to allow it.
Viet Nam was the distraction that allowed it to slip through our courts.
The flower child was too stoned to care.
Pornography was legalized because of it.
Radical feminism was given a voice it never never had before.
Men and women began losing their sexual identity.
The medical research that cured polio made use of it.
It has caused more death that all the wars put together.
Any concept of morality was put at a standstill.
People don't talk about it because of the guilt it would cause.
They defend it for the very same reason when they do.
And it's legal.

That should do it.

william
The contraceptive pill?
 
north
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:34 pm
@ughaibu,
is the invention of religion(s)
 
William
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:53 pm
@north,
ughaibu;146473 wrote:
The contraceptive pill?


north;146477 wrote:
is the invention of religion(s)


See what I mean about discussing it. Everyone knows what "it" is, but cleverly evades the subject. That's why it is not considered a regret. That's the horror of it. ughaibu, that was the beginning of it. And yes it is a contraceptive. A rather bloody one.

North, nice try. Yes, religion has it short comings but since more that 90% of the Earth's population feel religion is a good thing, I don't think they would consider their belief's a regret. No one, if they were totally honest with themselves would consider this a good thing. Those who do defend it are not that honest and create reasons to alleviate the guilt.

William
 
richard mcnair
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 09:57 pm
@William,
William;146465 wrote:
Okay, it has to do with medical research.
It was instituted to cure the dis-ease of the aged.
Phil Donahue was instrumental as were others in setting the stage for it.
The family was redefined and shamed to allow it.
Viet Nam was the distraction that allowed it to slip through our courts.
The flower child was too stoned to care.
Pornography was legalized because of it.
Radical feminism was given a voice it never never had before.
Men and women began losing their sexual identity.
The medical research that cured polio made use of it.
It has caused more death that all the wars put together.
Any concept of morality was put at a standstill.
People don't talk about it because of the guilt it would cause.
They defend it for the very same reason when they do.
And it's legal.

That should do it.

william

I don't agree with everything you've said there, and I don't agree that it should be considered the greatest regret... however I'm with you that it is a very bad thing and shouldn't be legal... at least not when all the parties involved are in full health
 
north
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:10 pm
@richard mcnair,
Quote:

Quote:
North, nice try. Yes, religion has it short comings but since more that 90% of the Earth's population feel religion is a good thing, I don't think they would consider their belief's a regret. No one, if they were totally honest with themselves would consider this a good thing. Those who do defend it are not that honest and create reasons to alleviate the guilt.


maybe 90% of the Earth's population think religion is a good thing

the problem is , is that , they don't see the bigger picture

that in the end , religion will be Humanities down fall

Originally Posted by north http://www.philosophyforum.com/images/PHBlue/buttons/viewpost.gif
is the invention of religion(s)
 
William
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:20 pm
@north,
north;146487 wrote:
Quote:



maybe 90% of the Earth's population think religion is a good thing

the problem is , is that , they don't see the bigger picture

that in the end , religion will be Humanities down fall

Originally Posted by north http://www.philosophyforum.com/images/PHBlue/buttons/viewpost.gif
is the invention of religion(s)


I understand what you are saying, but please stay focused on the thread at hand. You can't carte blanche blame religion for all that will be assumed to be the fall of mankind. Religion does have in it's assumptions a truth attached in it's underpinnings. Once we become to know what it is to be 'human' perhaps then we will not need religion at all.

william
 
north
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:33 pm
@William,
William;146489 wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but please stay focused on the thread at hand. You can't carte blanche blame religion for all that will be assumed to be the fall of mankind. Religion does have in it's assumptions a truth attached in it's underpinnings.


true but the problem is that ;

1) religion becomes fractal , which leads to the branchs of , and then one thinking they have a better grasp of what they believe than another branch , and so on , hence they fight amoungst another(s)

2) all of religion(s) hold their god higher than Humanity

name me any religion that holds Humanity above their god , none do




Quote:
Once we become to know what it is to be 'human' perhaps then we will not need religion at all.


we already know what it is to Human , we can't seem to accept it

the only way that Humanity can grow , is to let go of the parents so to speak
 
William
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 10:39 pm
@richard mcnair,
richard_mcnair;146483 wrote:
I don't agree with everything you've said there, and I don't agree that it should be considered the greatest regret... however I'm with you that it is a very bad thing and shouldn't be legal... at least not when all the parties involved are in full health


Thanks Richard, and you are right. It can be understood as not the greatest regret.............................yet! But it will be, I'm sure. All the negative repercussions have not been fully realized yet but enough to know that it is the tip of the iceberg as to all the damage it has and is causing. It's too late to just call it quits. It will take time and education of the likes this politically correct society will not allow........yet. Right now everything is "OK", when any caring human being knows that is simply not the case.

Thanks again for at least agreeing to some extent. That's a start.:a-ok:

William
 
Marat phil
 
Reply Tue 30 Mar, 2010 11:11 pm
@gotmilk9991,
gotmilk9991;94430 wrote:
What would be the greatest regret of mankind ever? Or what would you personally perceive as the greatest regret ever?


Medieval age. Criminal violence. 20 century
Germany VS Russia (1914 - 1945). :surrender:
 
north
 
Reply Wed 31 Mar, 2010 12:01 am
@Marat phil,
Marat;146505 wrote:
Medieval age. Criminal violence. 20 century
Germany VS Russia (1914 - 1945). :surrender:


or perhaps from your perspective

nobody had the courage to shoot hitler , point blank
 
Pepijn Sweep
 
Reply Wed 31 Mar, 2010 12:06 pm
@William,
William;146465 wrote:
Okay, it has to do with medical research.
It was instituted to cure the dis-ease of the aged.
Phil Donahue was instrumental as were others in setting the stage for it.
The family was redefined and shamed to allow it.
Viet Nam was the distraction that allowed it to slip through our courts.
The flower child was too stoned to care.
Pornography was legalized because of it.
Radical feminism was given a voice it never never had before.
Men and women began losing their sexual identity.
The medical research that cured polio made use of it.
It has caused more death that all the wars put together.
Any concept of morality was put at a standstill.
People don't talk about it because of the guilt it would cause.
They defend it for the very same reason when they do.
And it's legal.

That should do it.

william


Abortion of the Messiah ?Laughing
 
ikurwa89
 
Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2010 02:34 am
@gotmilk9991,
The greatest regret of man kind IS religion!

Religion has always slowed down scientific progress and forced people not to question anything, because it would be a sin if they questioned the work of God!

I find this rubbish, if it wasn't for those people who said "goddidit" doesn't do it for me, we would still be living in the stone age.

What i find surprising is that people STILL follow organized religion..why on earth would you need to follow a religion that talks mummbo jumboo..
 
Pepijn Sweep
 
Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2010 05:11 am
@ikurwa89,
ikurwa89;147015 wrote:
The greatest regret of man kind IS religion!

Religion has always slowed down scientific progress and forced people not to question anything, because it would be a sin if they questioned the work of God!

I find this rubbish, if it wasn't for those people who said "goddidit" doesn't do it for me, we would still be living in the stone age.

What i find surprising is that people STILL follow organized religion..why on earth would you need to follow a religion that talks mummbo jumboo..


There are many forms of religion; there is more to Heaven, Earth and Underworld than the Abrahamic religions. Science was not slowed down in Egypt, Mesopotania, Persia or India till more western nations conquered those countries.
 
William
 
Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2010 07:42 am
@Pepijn Sweep,
Pepijn Sweep;146756 wrote:
Abortion of the Messiah ?Laughing

Nah, that could never happen. Although, that could be an intent. That was tried before as some say; it failed then too. An all knowing god would not allow that to happen. Moses was considered a "deliverer" which could be construed as a messiah. That has always made me wonder about the story that has been told about a man call Jesus. We destroyed him. Is that a regret? Not the way the story goes, it's not. If that is the case is there anything we regret that we cannot invent a reason for? We are really good at giving excuses for just about anything we are guilty of doing that we know is not right. All those things we do and get away with that are not right have repercussions we do not consider. They always do, every single one of them. No Exceptions.

So if we did kill an innocent man who was not a messiah could it be that very tragic mistake that has caused all the hell we have experienced since? Hmm?

If he did exist and it was a ruse for this man to think he was a messiah only to kill him, now that would definitely have it's consequences I would think, huh! If we could kill him then what's to say we couldn't do that again or many times since? We made excuses for it the first time, surely we can do that again. Like I said we are virtually experts at doing that.

Nah, a real Messiah would pass among us sight unseen delivering the truth quietly for all the years he would be with us and no one would know it unless it was time for his identity to be known. It can be understood if he is telling the truth, he would not have to tell us who he was as his truth would be quietly spread like wild fire and we would then know ourselves who he was and by that time no one would even consider harming him in any way and any who would try all would protect him who believed whether they knew it or not. He would have a defense structure no one could penetrate. Imagine that if you will? :whistling:

William
 
Lily
 
Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2010 02:39 pm
@north,
William;146465 wrote:
Okay, it has to do with medical research.
It was instituted to cure the dis-ease of the aged.
Phil Donahue was instrumental as were others in setting the stage for it.
The family was redefined and shamed to allow it.
Viet Nam was the distraction that allowed it to slip through our courts.
The flower child was too stoned to care.
Pornography was legalized because of it.
Radical feminism was given a voice it never never had before.
Men and women began losing their sexual identity.
The medical research that cured polio made use of it.
It has caused more death that all the wars put together.
Any concept of morality was put at a standstill.
People don't talk about it because of the guilt it would cause.
They defend it for the very same reason when they do.
And it's legal.

That should do it.

william


ughaibu;146473 wrote:
The contraceptive pill?


I don't know if I should laugh or just get angry. Are serious, or are you just trying to provoke? If that's the case, you have succeded. Why shouldn't women be allowed to "sleep around" just as much as men? And a lot of women take contraceptive pills because they want to control their period. If you haven't sat with a calender in your lap and tried to figure out if your vaccation will be made a lot more difficult, you might not understand this. And you can't say it have killed more people than all wars. There's no fertilization when a woman is on the pills. The egg is not where it needs to be! Sorry for this lousy explanation, but the words you need for discussing this are not hte ones I lean in my English class:shifty:. I don't think any child should be born unwanted, and therefor the contraceptive pill is a good thing.
 
 

 
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