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"Henry;...If you think the world keeps on ticking whether anyone is around or not, then you think that on faith, and not on any sort of evidence..."
Actually: I have more evidence for my position than you, yours.
1-People die every day in droves. I see no evidence the world/reality takes any notice of the death of one, or a million. Sure: 'we' (human individuals) notice the deaths of friends, family, and strangers, but, the world/reality does not.
If you can counter this with some kind of verifiable evidence, I'd love to see it.
2-At some point in the past, the world/reality had not a single human individual living in it. I think it's safe to say, in fact: if you go back far enough on the timeline of the universe, there was a point when no life of any kind existed. But that embryonic universe did exist, and it existed quite independently of any 'mind'.
The line is as follows: universe (origin, development, complexifying, meaningless and devoid of meaning-givers) leads to life (simple to complex, self-organizing, biological automation) leads to meaning-givers (idiosyncratic, autonomous, self-aware/reflective/organizing/determining/possessing).
Now: if you have any evidence to support your position (other than ill-informed intuition) I'd be happy to examine and consider it.
However: as things stand, you haven't given me any reason to reconsider my view, that being: When 'you' die the world ends FOR 'you', but the world itself keeps right on ticking away whether you're here or not. Even if each of us (all six billion plus) die right now, this second, the world/universe/reality is gonna keep right on ticking away.
You are me, me are you, we are ONE.
i am me. and you are only you because my mind created you.
jeje:bigsmile:
One what?...........
Thanks for the creation... First rate job... If I was the boss I would pay you...
---------- Post added 08-16-2009 at 09:35 PM ----------
no problem i subconsciously do what i can :bigsmile:
Fido;83658 wrote:Thanks for the creation... First rate job... If I was the boss I would pay you...
---------- Post added 08-16-2009 at 09:35 PM ----------
no problem i subconsciously do what i can :bigsmile:
And not consciously???