Why does there have to be a God?

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Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 07:03 pm
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?
 
Fido
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 08:10 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Only because there can never BE a nothing... The thing is that God isn't being quite as much as we are seeing with the eye of our imaginations...
 
Descartes
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 08:26 pm
@Diogenes phil,
There doesn't have to be a God. God is a man-made name in which it labelled a higher being. I believe that to say that there is nothing is extremely egotistically narrow minded, because the fact that we can perceive thought of that of which is not of the typical 'norm' or in the physical world, sets us apart from every other living thing on this earth. I believe that to say there is nothing is like that of saying that no architect designed the golden gate bridge. We have to had some other being, whether you call it God or whatever, something had to put this crazy existence of man in motion. We are way to complex beings to simply say that we are just simply here, because our minds take us out of this reality so we cannot just be simply pinned down to this earth. There had to be a maker of this all
 
Night Ripper
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 08:32 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Diogenes;160667 wrote:
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?


You're asking for a cause of something rather than nothing but a cause would itself be something, wouldn't it? Therefore the question doesn't make sense.
 
amist
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 08:35 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Why does there have to be a God?

Simple. There doesn't.
 
Krumple
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 09:08 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Why does there have to be a God?

Well some people can't cope with reality so they rely on this concept to function.
 
Descartes
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 11:07 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple;160695 wrote:
Why does there have to be a God?

Well some people can't cope with reality so they rely on this concept to function.

But what is reality? is it our own concept of what we perceive or is it that of what another tells you what they perceive it is?
 
trismegisto
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 11:09 pm
@ Descartes ,
_Descartes_;160715 wrote:
But what is reality?


A little conscious contemplation will clear that right up for you
 
Descartes
 
Reply Wed 5 May, 2010 11:38 pm
@trismegisto,
trismegisto;160716 wrote:
A little conscious contemplation will clear that right up for you

Obviously, but he was saying that reality is our perception, so i wanted to know his perception on the matter? But thanks for the tip i already know, so i think lol
 
trismegisto
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 12:04 am
@ Descartes ,
_Descartes_;160720 wrote:
Obviously, but he was saying that reality is our perception, so i wanted to know his perception on the matter? But thanks for the tip i already know, so i think lol


more often than not our perception of reality is mistaken for reality
 
Pepijn Sweep
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 02:40 am
@Diogenes phil,
Diogenes;160667 wrote:
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?

From One evolves the Other...
 
jeeprs
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:56 am
@Diogenes phil,
Diogenes;160667 wrote:
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?


So - here we are again, back at the very origin of philosophy....

[The dogs bark, and the caravan moves on.]
 
Descartes
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 02:37 pm
@trismegisto,
trismegisto;160727 wrote:
more often than not our perception of reality is mistaken for reality

Oh i believe so, many mistake their perception of reality as reality when the bottom line is, is that reality is what you perceive and in-turn that perception stabilizes a sense of awareness in the sense that you know what you have perceived.
 
Fido
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:13 pm
@jeeprs,
jeeprs;160748 wrote:
So - here we are again, back at the very origin of philosophy....

[The dogs bark, and the caravan moves on.]

People might be happier and live longer if they stuck to asking the questions they had some possiblity of answering...I don't see how asking a stupid question makes anyone smarter...
 
Zetherin
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:14 pm
@Diogenes phil,
Diogenes;160667 wrote:
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?


Who said that is the case?
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:18 pm
@trismegisto,
trismegisto;160727 wrote:
more often than not our perception of reality is mistaken for reality


More often than not? That is very implausible. If that were so, how could we even survive a day in traffic? Sense perception is highly reliable. Not perfect, of course, but highly reliable. That we come home after a day of driving is testimony to that.

---------- Post added 05-06-2010 at 05:19 PM ----------

Diogenes;160667 wrote:
Why does there have to be something instead of nothing?


Because if there were nothing, who would complain?

---------- Post added 05-06-2010 at 05:21 PM ----------

Zetherin;160944 wrote:
Who said that is the case?


No one, obviously. But if there were nothing, wouldn't that be something?
 
Zetherin
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:25 pm
@Diogenes phil,
kennethamy wrote:
No one, obviously. But if there were nothing, wouldn't that be something?


No.

Unless of course you're referring to the idiom "wouldn't that be something". And in that case, you're just being cute with me.
 
amist
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:28 pm
@Diogenes phil,
I think everyone on here except Ken needs to reread their Heidegger.
 
Zetherin
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 03:30 pm
@amist,
amist;160958 wrote:
I think everyone on here except Ken needs to reread their Heidegger.


I've never had a Heidegger, and I don't believe I ever will.
 
kennethamy
 
Reply Thu 6 May, 2010 06:12 pm
@Zetherin,
Zetherin;160956 wrote:
No.

Unless of course you're referring to the idiom "wouldn't that be something". And in that case, you're just being cute with me.


Well I am trying to be cute, but not only with you. The question is, am I succeeding? But I have a non-cute point as well: For is it not true that if there were nothing, then nothing would then exist, and so would be something. So there would be something were nothing to exist. For how could nothing (or anything else) exist, and not be nothing? Impossible, I daresay. And, if you don't believe me, then read:

Nothing, by P. L. Heath
 
 

 
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