But, there's nothing wrong with nonsense...
It truly takes all kinds.

Asking if the trinity is logical is like asking if gas is liquid...One, religio means to tie back...It is held from the past... Reason is ratio, as out of time as a scale weighing matter without passion...Consider that names, labels are not arbetrary... They are a part of the form itself, how we remember the identity.. They are not meant to sow confusion, and if they did they would be no help at all..

Whoah, hold on a second. I think we need to double check our Latin.

religio - Wiktionary

The Latin ligare means to "bind, connect".

Religare is the Latin for 'to tie fast', apparently.

And the idea that God is All loving, All knowing and All powerful I find a nonsense. In regards to suffering: If God is All loving he would not allow us to suffer, so it is said the world is just like that, its out of his hands, then what of his All knowingness? He would have seen that coming a mile off, and what kind of All powerful being can not rectify such a silly little error like the invention of suffering?

I think it is blindingly obvious as well that all God's Omni-essence is just the projection of human values/desire.

Any ways, I have never seen any direct sense in the idea of the Holy Trinity either, religion worked for me until I was like 10, then when people (clergy & bible club)began to get 'clever', trying to interpret what I had assumed to be fables and myths as philosophically profound reality, I was confused and turned off. Christianity only ever worked for me as abstract & symbolic fables.

Hi dan, what you say has its merits and i respect your opinion. But i would like to share mine as well.

How i see this god thing is that god gives us the choice to do anything, and it is our choices and the choices of people around us that doom us to suffering. I know you've probably heard the adam and eve story a buttload of times, but god gave them a choice, to obey him, or to disobey. Now it wasn't like god was starving them or anything, adam and eve had everything they needed, but human greed and curiosity drove them to disobey.
Of course, you would say that why doesn't god just fix up this horrid mess of a world?
then why doesn't god just create a bunch of robots programmed to love him/her/whatever and not disobey? I reckon the real beauty of this christianity thing is that we are free to choose what to believe, that we are not just programmed to believe.

SOme countries and societies brainwash kids into believing a certain religion. This is the very concept that i believe god is working agaisn't. i believe god doesn't want people to just believe, but to know why they believe.

so it really boils down to this, would you rather have a soul and free will (and have this screwed up world), or an emotionless perfect mind and a perfect world (and be a robot).

its sort of like the movie 'demolition man'. for those who haven't watched it, its worth a watch.

The Trinity is more a tool of reflection than anything else.

Something else I find interesting (being as a side-hobby a writer) is how complex human psychology is. Humans are motivated by motives ranging anywhere from altruism to self-preservation, from love to jealousy, from humility to vainglory, and oftentimes with a bunch of these motivations motivating a single action. Now tell me if that oughtn't be logically impossible? That our rationales should always be pure reason? But yet here we are, blundering along along the edges of logic. So why would God have to be logically coherent? By our own theologians' admission, He is ineffable. Why can't he follow a logic that's different from ours? Why can't He be the Creator, Savior, Destroyer, Inspirer, and what-have-you all packed into one? We sure are, and we're supposed to be in His image!

I maintain that the Trinity is more a mode of the perception of God than an actual reflection of God's actual existence. The Trinity merely binds together the three most established ways of knowing God. There may be more. Thus it is a window to Him--but nothing more--and it's impossible to evaluate the logic of a system without understanding that system in its completeness.

But isn't the idea of the Holy Trinity, the idea that God is both WHOLLY one and WHOLLY separate, logically impossible?:perplexed:

It is indeed. As people put the sword way, apparently God does to -- this sword being Satan.

Is the Father the inscrutable creator? Is the one this same Father in human flesh, fitted into our earthly circumstance, a paragon?

Is the Holy Ghost the spirit the faithful share, or rather the communal state of feeling like Christ: God in the flesh.

Christ in relation to the Law was Satan. And Satan in his revolutionary aspect, rebelling against God, was Christlike. Both seem to incarnate the myth of the rebel.

The devil is the true nature of the universe,uncompromising and ruthless in its pursuit. We invent gods to give us comfort in our darkness. We invent ethics to protect us from our own natural instincts. We try to create balance by inventing trilogies. The trinity is about the invention of balance.