I doubt this by what you have said in previous posts, xris. You have extolled the Bible's message. You may doubt that the Bible was a message from God perhaps, but you have expressed, and I quote, "i can see many lessons, moral guidance and good laws." If such is your belief, then you can't see the Bible as completely wrong. Perhaps you see the interpretation of it as the word of God as wrong. But you wouldn't be the first to make such an assessment yet still see many lessons, moral guidance and good laws upon which to believe in. To quote a favorite movie of mine, "I don't care what you believe, just believe it."
Sorry saying it was wrong was wrong..The message in the NT is uplifting and worthy of god but i see it as message from wise men. I believe men of goodwill used the power of a god ,his persuasion to influence mens behaviour to the good. Just telling people to behave and obey certain moral rules would have had no impact so the "God" was used to frighten , persued and convince.The three wise men brought more than the gold etc. they invented the myth and the moral code. .
Believe me I absorb and learn from your wisdom
I often referred to myself in my writing as "The Listener"
Okay I see where you're going and I agree with you. The idea of God, or any other external authority, shouldn't have to be used to back up and support sensible thinking and proper behaviour. Those things should aught to be able to support themselves. I guess the problem is that not everyone agrees on what is sensible and proper, so some use God as a means to give their ideas more credit. Would I do such a thing? No, I don't think so. I don't claim that God is telling me anything. I just do what I do in the hopes that it is what God wants me to do.
They where different times ,the idea of mercy was not readily accepted and loving your enemy was revolutionery.Alot of the morals had been thought of but not accepted so they would have needed authority. If you look at Pagan faiths of the time, the jesus story is mirrored in them. Mythras the roman god was born from the gods ,virgin birth, miracles , sacrifice and resurrected .How much more evidence do you need to see the myth growing from other myths and putting the message into this myth.
Oh yes, I have thought of these things too. How much of all of the Bible is truly original? The story of the great flood is common to many cultures. When it comes to Christ, though, it does hit a different sort of cord, doesn't it? It's like it's a religious taboo to even think that any part of Christ's story is made up. But the story shares similarities with many ancient myths, not just the Roman.
How can we possibly rationalize it then? Well, it comes down to this for me; even if Christ didn't exist, or simply the story about him is not entirely true, it doesn't change his message. Nor does it change the subsequent message that Paul taught about Grace. What I am left with is faith; faith that God created me and will not destroy me. No matter whether someone screwed up the details of the Bible.
In the end, even if we could somehow prove that Christ existed and the Biblical story of his life was absolutely true down to the letter, what difference would it make? It doesn't change that when I read it now it is still just a story to me. If the story says something that I agree with, I won't agree with it any more just because he existed. And if the story says something that I don't agree with, I still won't agree with it any more just because he existed. I'll either agree with the message and the moral of the story or I will not, whether or not he existed and to whatever capacity his story was true.
Let me ask you this, which type of movie makes you feel better; a feel good story that is "based on real events", or an even better feel good story that is entirely fiction? The first one being "based on real events" is little more than a sidenote to most of us. Of the two, it's usually the second movie that we'll remember.
I dont worship movies..
But what is the final destiny of Scuba?
I had a thought about the unforgivable sin
To me It to hate God with all your soul all mind and all your might and to hate your neibour as you Hate yourself
Scuba did not do this
To blaspheme the Holy Ghost is to blaspheme truth/honesty