Good Morning, does everyone have their coffee yet?
I'd like to present a concept and my view of it for discussion. It has to do with Belief; specifically that flavor of belief that holds to concepts of god - whatever concept you might have.
: An attempt at an honest, critically-thought evaluation of how one arrives at a conclusion.
: Is theological belief voluntary?
Concurrently; is any 'belief' voluntary?
, in this context, I'd describe as holding or subscribing to a notion without sufficient backup to claim as "knowledge"
. This is a working definition of the concept, verbalized here for the purposes of our discussion.
, in this context, I'd like to define here as some fact or aspect that one can practically know. This is a vastly-divergent concept that, itself, isn't rock-solid (and indeed could be completely obliterated without much effort). But for the purpose of this thread, I'd like to define this as practical information for which enough agreement exists - between us fine thinkers - to accept as 'true' (insofar as we're able)
. Let's all stand 'round a table, touch it, bang on it, all agree that it's black - this is how I'd like to work with the term "knowledge" in this context.
:[INDENT] 1. Belief isn't voluntary; belief is a conclusion - drawn by the mind - about a condition or existence where some need or desire is so strong, that the lack of facts is ignored.
[/INDENT][INDENT] 2. Belief and Knowledge are two opposite points on a scale. Draw a straight line; at the far left put the word "belief", at the far right put the word "knowledge". You're next going to place a dot on that line that represents where in this scale your claim belongs. Next, consider what evidence and rational support you have for your postulation. The more you have, the further on that line - towards the left - you're going to place your dot. Where your dot ends up sitting, on this line, will determine how much quantifiable support exists (in your considered estimation).
[/INDENT][INDENT] 3. Whether or not you end up standing proudly and proclaiming, "I believe" or "I know" will depend on where that 'dot' (from claim 2) exists. An important point here is that where the breakpoint is; that point where belief has enough support to be subjectively called "knowledge" is different for every person.
:[INDENT]One cannot "choose" to believe in something. Either the need/desire to believe exists or it does not
. To try and consciously buy-in to a theological belief is to deceive oneself; it is disingenuous and self-deluding.
[/INDENT]This is how I see it. That belief arises in the individual based on a desire or hope. If this is true, then it stands to no reason that one could "force a fit
". I'm very curious how valid or invalid others see this view
Thanks in advance